Hey everyone.
Just wondering how peoples fuel economy stacks up.
Bit disappointed with my latest purchase
Particularly relating to utes
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Hey everyone.
Just wondering how peoples fuel economy stacks up.
Bit disappointed with my latest purchase
Particularly relating to utes
2010 hilux dcab 4wd. 7.5 L/100km road tyres @ 36 psi
2015 hilux dcab 4wd. 7.2 L/100km road tyres @ 36 psi
Listed fuel economy is a load of bullocks!
Fuel economy is only as good as the driver can make it.
So many variables that can effect it.
Yup realize that and tires play a huge part. Always expect it to be higher than listed. .Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
Just never had one about 3-4l per 100k over
watching with interest, what ute is it?
Not sure about utes, but with cars I think the European manufacturers are quite well known for 'gaming' the official test cycles to give much lower official fuel consumption figures for marketing (and lower taxes in some countries where tax is based on nominal co2 output) even if nobody gets that in reality. The Japanese manufacturers have normally tended to be a bit more honest with it, but its still just a lab test that may differ a lot from your driving (especially if you live somewhere hilly or tow trailers etc).
I remember being amused by a UK car magazine test between an Subaru Impreza STI and a VW Golf R a couple of years back. Both 2.0 turbo 4wd with similar power and weight, from memory the VW claimed 39mpg and the Subaru claimed 28mpg... and both did 27mpg in the mags real-world testing.
My ranger on a trip, two wheel drive, road tyres pretty constant on trip 8.7/8.9. Now I’m retired, I’ll try to do better, this is an old 2013 model
Amazed with the Tritons economy.....even with my lead foot, lots of around town,towing boat still average under 10l -100....On a trip if I keep my foot out of it it will get down into high 6 low 7l -100.....2wd tho so not dragging round that extra weight and drag of 4wdsystem.
You can buy a lot of petrol for the hourly charge out rate of a machanic.You could have a gas guzzling v8 that might only cost you 1k in ten years on repairs.I know somebody who just brought a toyota surf diesel 3litrs i think 6 months ago.3 months ago engine blew up.15k to rebuild,3 weeks after repairs it was back in garage in bits again.Had a guest in my house a month ago,brought a nice range rover diesel 3.6ltr,he talked about how cheap it was to run blablabla,then said the turbo blew its guts.11k to replace.Old petrol sixs or 8s looked after go for decades.
One ute (part time 4x4) get 37mpg, 30+mpg around town.
Other one (not 4x4) gets 18mpg (on a really good day!), 10 mpg around town.
ye guess so,50yrs ago theres was hardly any diesels around.Heres my old 4.2 Tdi done 545000ks,had it 16yrs now,spent about 2k putting rear main seal in.Done nothing else to motor. and it doesnt burn oil or smoke.Only use it hunting now.
My hunter truck is a 312ks 96 Bighorn with 32 muds, tune etc - can do 9.7L/100 on trip (29.1mpg) but more commonly just over 10L. Much much better than my 1kz 3.0 Prado - that was a shocker on diesel.
Wee runabout Toyota ist 1.5 car consistently clocks just over 50mpg on trips - 5.6L/100ks. :o
Well I know ford is calculated down hill with the motor off possibly getting towed by something cos I can’t even get anywhere near what the fancy sales pitch says
Me old patrol does about about 14ltr/100k but i give a dos as long as i get a deer or 2.Id love a V8 400hp new patrol but they $107000 fkn dollers.Covit suckn up my savings now so long live the pension.Eniugh fir a tank of gas n 2 booxs of bullits .
Yeah, but the Patrol is sooo much cheaper to own in the long term. Depreciation for one thing, is almost non existant. Rebuild an injector pump and injectors (needed maybe once in its lifetime will set you back a cuople of grand. A diesel techician wouldn't even get out of bed for your Ford ranger/hilux/Isuzu IP for 2K! Maintenance costs are far lower, with the plethora of reasonable quality aftermarket bits. My Landy has half a shed worth of spare parts stashed away. The Patrol has a couple of spare oil filters and some suspension bushes. Period:cool:
But horses for courses. Some people love the comfort of a new wagon. Fuel economy is small beers in the long term scheme of things, when some are looking at dropping 15 - 20 K in depreciation in the first few years of ownership.
My 2018 Triton advertised 7.4 l/100 when I got it, best I have even gotten was around 8 usually closer to 9.... Saleman reckoned the 7.4 was easy to get. I have zeroed the trip meter whilst doing 100 a with a slight tail wind and kept crusing at 100 and it still showed over 8l/100. Towing a decent trailer will take it up to 15l/100
I will admit that this is all off the computer and not actually measured at the pump as I'm too lazy
Id be surprised if any ute owner has lost 15-20k in depreciation since buying a ute from 2015-2020. The market at the moment is crazy.
My 3.2 Ranger was running at 9.8 L/100 on AT's and when I put a bull/winch bar on recently it shot up to 10.5.
Even old y61 2019-2000 patrols 4.2dti with 500000 -60000ks that only have a few owners.Getting sold between $12000 to $20000.One a few months ago,2nd owner had it 20yrs,645000ks,looked like his dog live in it as it was torn to bits on the inside.Sold for $16400.Good coin, but motor and running gear had been looked after and still going strong.
Roo bar for SouthIsland roo hunts:thumbsup:.Did you get a winch fitted in at the sametime ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
No. Doubt I will. Snorkel and suspension upgrade next - so long as I can start to earn an income again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trout
Good one,i see rangers going thru our town sometimes,been all kitted out, covered in mud and dirt.Hunters in them,deer,pigs or tahr thrown over the back.Using the truck for what its made for.:thumbsup:
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Absolutely Trout. I love seeing blood tripping out the tailgate!
Just to stay on topic - this was my DMax before the Ranger. The DMax ran at about 9.2 L/100
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Just so long as the gravy is running out the tail gate.Tahr you no doubt know that if the liner gets a split, the acidic blood will rot out the wellside lickety split. Back to topic.
As a self employed tradie I do the tax minimization dance with IRD by turning over my diesels within every 3 years, so have got the first hand experience of comparing listed consumption figures with actual performance cause I,m anal like that.4x 70 series V8 cruisers, 1 Henry Ford Ranger & 1 mini-me Mazda BT-50.All purchased off the show room floor as rolling chassis requiring fitting out with aftermarket decks, roof racks, bullbars with racks & suspension upgrade if reqd.Not one of those new vehicle or once run in with 30 odd clicks on then come close to factory fiqures.Marketing spin.Possibily achievable as a rolling chassis in nanna mode?
My dmax sat at 10.6I/100 km I drive on a lot of hilly windy roads & farm tracks that was a manual just sold it at 4 years old (because it was a lemon & they wouldn't do any more warranty work on it & I can't afford to be with out a ute) in that 4 years I lost 10k depreciation & it probably cost 15-20 in warranty repairs in that time. Iv gone to a new Hilux iv done 4 thousand km init & it siting on 10l /100km doing the same work as the dmax but iv gone auto this time they both been set up the same 4*4 dcab with canopy & nudge bar
Nothing like a mobile meat safe.A few yrs ago i towered a trail from Beaumont,southland to chch in one trip.Trailor had nine gutted deer in it,patrol had 4 hunters and gear.I keep the foot down abit,Sunday night,Monday morning back to chch.Patrol avaraged 18ks/100ks.I thort it did well considering all the weight and my heavey foot.Keeped truck out of over drive till the canterbury plans.Attachment 176815
Just looked at my hilux 14 manual 4x4 11.4l/100km never been reset
97 Prado 1-KZ 3.0 Turbo 360k manual full-time 4WD Bridgestone ATs @ 36
Around town 11.5ish
On a trip 9.7 or so
Best ever 9.3
Didn't notice much difference changing between road tyres and ATs, maybe 0.5l per 100kms
Bought for $20K in 2002 at 120km
Never had a problem, change the fluids and filters, spend another $1K say every 2-3 years, steering bushes, diff kit, aircon
Cheap motoring
Also had the 3.4 V6 auto version for a bit - now that sucks gas 14 litres on a trip
Fuel economy has definitely improved somewhat with newer models enabled by whizz-bang wizardry I presume.
But at what cost to reliability and maintenance requirements?
As the old french engineer (LAME) who taught me liked to say "there's no substitute for cubic inches" :-)
Never take mine out of 4H (try that in your Ranger!), and computer tells me between 7.5-8.5L / 100km. Pump at the truck stop shows 9L / 100km. This is on AT tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Pretty close in my book. No doubt get better in 2H, but why?
Manufacturers spec shows 8.6L / 100km
Depends on what the actual drive train is!
If it has a centre diff all is fine in the world.
Mitsi have a center diff.....so you have the choice of 2wd rear, AWD (center diff unlocked), and 4wd center diff locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohawk .308
Vc you sure? When mine goes in 4h the centre diff light comes on.... Can't say I have looked for a button like on the 80series though
100% sure the misti triton with super select, has a center diff allowing AWD on high traction surfaces. This was the feature that made me head the Triton way, when I was originally looking at a Ranger.
Select dial has 4H, 4lc (locked center diff), 2H, 2lc. Both 4H and 2H are usable on the road.
I went from a '96 Prado which had AWD, and I got got used to being able to smash the loud pedal, and not being left spinning the rear wheels.
In our model year it was only the top spec GLS model that got the" super select 2" system with center diff and rear diff locks.Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
I think it is in more variants now tho?
Yours will have the "easy select" 4wd system which is the same as most other brands and shouldn't be used on high traction surfaces.
2004 Toyota Echo 1.3L
Claimed: 5.9L/100km
Actual urban: 7.2L/100km
Actual rural: 6.3L/100km
Ahhh that makes sense vc, have the glx r and didn't want to pay a heap more for me leather seats. Guess this was something else I missed it on
Your Mrs must get around a lot in many different vehicles, I see heaps rushing up to a stop or give way sign like they’re not going to have to stop - then throw out all anchors at the last two seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
And also see lots tailgating ahead of me and brake lights blinking on constantly….
Unless they have changed the reading on the dash is recent average not lifetime so 9l per hundy round town is probably pretty fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
Fuel consumption and depreciation on my '17 XLT Ranger? Who cares- compared to my AMG sedan, it's basically nothing. The diesel mileage still pisses me off on the ute though.
