Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

DPT Black Watch


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 20
Like Tree15Likes

Thread: Hilux EGR

  1. #1
    Member Mathias's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Canterbury, home of the big Rakaia Red Stag
    Posts
    3,380

    Hilux EGR

    Hiya, I've got a low km 2015 Hilux 4x4 with the 1KD. Is there any real world advantage in doing the EGR delete module on this motor? I've been reading a few Aussie forum pages about it but no real conclusion of real good or a waste of money.
    My understanding is the valve is only really working when at a constant cruise under low load, not at idle or acceleration.
    Anybody done mod's to this model and have experience to share?

    Cheers....

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    canterbury
    Posts
    1,517
    Yes worth it
    JoshC and Mathias like this.

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    christchurch
    Posts
    12,284
    i havent built a kit for the hilux yet but its pretty much convincing the engine management that its cold outside. the ones i built for the 4d56 mitsi work well
    keengunNic and Mathias like this.

  4. #4
    Almost literate. veitnamcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    22,737
    Apparently the Toyota cannot be tricked into keeping it closed with the resister in the line to MAF sensor like most other vehicles.
    I got a delete cable for the Triton before I even picked it up so no soot in my intake.....helps a bit with throttle lag too.

    This for the hilux.

    https://chiptuning.com.au/product/to...gr-off-module/

    Modern diesels are good engines its just all the carbon they breathe that roots em.
    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

  5. #5
    Member Reindeer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Wanganui no H
    Posts
    420
    Ok Guys What about DPF on Hilux?

  6. #6
    Member Mathias's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Canterbury, home of the big Rakaia Red Stag
    Posts
    3,380
    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Apparently the Toyota cannot be tricked into keeping it closed with the resister in the line to MAF sensor like most other vehicles.
    I got a delete cable for the Triton before I even picked it up so no soot in my intake.....helps a bit with throttle lag too.

    This for the hilux.

    https://chiptuning.com.au/product/to...gr-off-module/

    Modern diesels are good engines its just all the carbon they breathe that roots em.
    Yeah Cam, I spotted that unit for sale and one other thats an Aussie system nearly the same at AUD $160. Apparently these do work on the late 1KD with the variable EGR. https://www.aironboard.com.au/store/...2005-2015.html
    Last edited by Mathias; 12-04-2021 at 04:43 PM.

  7. #7
    Member Beetroot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Morrinsville
    Posts
    2,103
    It's worth doing if possible, the amount of gunk that can build up in the inlet manifold is incredible.

    I had a diesel that wouldn't rev over 3000rpm, inlet manifold was so full of crap that airflow was reduced about 50%.
    Goes much better now its cleaned up and EGR valve blanked off.

    Can't help with making it possible on your vehicle though sorry.

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    christchurch
    Posts
    12,284
    "royal egr cleaner" from partsmaster is good for cleaning providing its not totally gunked up.
    only thing i found that actually worked, just make sure you do it outside because its smoky and stinks

  9. #9
    Member Flyblown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    2,115
    Don’t bugger around with the EGR, fit an oil catch can to the crankcase gases line instead.

    Much better to remove the source of the soot (oil vapour in crankcase gases) because even if you are blanking the EGR, the oil vapour is still going to go into your intake system. Instead of soot from the superheated EGR gas cooking the oil vapour, you end up with sticky gummy crap instead.

    I’ve run a Hilux 1KD with a Provent filter since new in April ‘14. When I inspected the intake system at timing belt time, it was spot on.

    I used to spend a lot of time on the Australian Hilux forum when I built my vehicle, and there were several tales of problematic fault codes after blanking the EGR. In the end if guys insisted on taking the heat out of the equation then the only reliable way they could do it was to fit the blanking plate with the hole in the middle, so the ECU didn’t see a fault. But you still get some heat and therefore some soot. So just take the oil out of the equation. Or if you absolutely insist, then do both, but definitely filter first.
    Mathias likes this.
    Just...say...the...word

  10. #10
    Almost literate. veitnamcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    22,737
    I have to beg to differ there.
    Engines have been breathing crankcase vapor for the last 30-40 years with no problems.
    The source of the soot is the soot (go figure) that comes out of the exhaust and is routed back into the intake via the egr valve.

    Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk
    Tommy likes this.
    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

  11. #11
    Member Flyblown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    2,115
    Nope.

    It’s the introduction of the EGR heat to modern diesels that is the problem. These were introduced to control NOx emissions. Older diesels didn’t have them, hence no heat and hence no soot.

    Yes there’s some soot in the EGR gas, but the combination with the crankcase gases and oil is what causes the modern phenomenon of totally blocked intake systems.

    I should do a video of what comes out of my drain line from the oil catch can...
    Ross Nolan likes this.
    Just...say...the...word

  12. #12
    Member Beetroot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Morrinsville
    Posts
    2,103
    Quote Originally Posted by Flyblown View Post
    Nope.

    It’s the introduction of the EGR heat to modern diesels that is the problem. These were introduced to control NOx emissions. Older diesels didn’t have them, hence no heat and hence no soot.

    Yes there’s some soot in the EGR gas, but the combination with the crankcase gases and oil is what causes the modern phenomenon of totally blocked intake systems.

    I should do a video of what comes out of my drain line from the oil catch can...
    The vehicle i referenced above was an old school mechanical injected diesel, EGR valves clogging up happens on older diesels too.

  13. #13
    Almost literate. veitnamcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    22,737
    Quote Originally Posted by Flyblown View Post
    Nope.

    It’s the introduction of the EGR heat to modern diesels that is the problem. These were introduced to control NOx emissions. Older diesels didn’t have them, hence no heat and hence no soot.

    Yes there’s some soot in the EGR gas, but the combination with the crankcase gases and oil is what causes the modern phenomenon of totally blocked intake systems.

    I should do a video of what comes out of my drain line from the oil catch can...
    Which ever you like shuting the egr valve stops both the exhaust heat and soot entering the intake.
    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

  14. #14
    Member Mathias's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Canterbury, home of the big Rakaia Red Stag
    Posts
    3,380
    Good debate fellas. I can see it from both sides. These later 1KD have an EGR cooler too, so restricting oil would be a plus.

    Sent from my SM-A530F using Tapatalk

  15. #15
    Member Flyblown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    2,115
    I mentioned doing a vid, so here it is. I talk too much.

    Just...say...the...word

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. WTB: 03-04 hilux
    By buzzman in forum Buy, Sell or Swap
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 22-07-2020, 09:27 PM
  2. New hilux wheels, onto an older model hilux
    By kimjon in forum Projects and Home Builds
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 05-09-2015, 07:24 PM
  3. looking for a hilux
    By northdude in forum Buy, Sell or Swap
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 29-08-2015, 12:18 PM
  4. New hilux
    By Munsey in forum Outdoor Transport
    Replies: 228
    Last Post: 14-06-2015, 10:33 AM
  5. Hilux F/S
    By Dreamer in forum Buy, Sell or Swap
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 27-11-2013, 03:33 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!