New hilux

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Originally Posted by sneeze

Of little use when they are all on the inside?

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Bwaahaaahaaa! [emoji13]

Shut up, ya grumpy miserable prick.😆

Buy a Hilux and you will cheer up.

I haven't even bothered hassling tritons.
It is a given youre dysfunctional driving one of those😆

yup, grumpy, miserable, dysfunctional, you could add cheap and judging by some of the people I associate with ...... very low standards.

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Originally Posted by sneeze

yup, grumpy, miserable, dysfunctional, you could add cheap and judging by some of the people I associate with ...... very low standards.

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Ha ha ha Your wife is a great cook. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't annoy you so much😆

Arguing over which 4wd ute is better is a waste of time . We all know that a v8 70series shape ,new lancruiser would be the shit for hunting , but we buy Utes . A -because we like to drive it like a car on road at least 120 ks even corners , B- because we are too tight or too poor to spend 78 k .

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Originally Posted by R93

Ha ha ha Your wife is a great cook. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't annoy you so much��

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i think your actually a closet triton fan.

On a still not very serious note I had a look at the new triton yesterday. First time Iv thought a new model was an overall improvement, though that could say more about the last one than the new. Power/torque 135kw/437nm are up, 25% more torque at 1500rpm, kept the great tuning circle and even made an attempt to increase exit angle. Kept the 10 year drivetrain warranty,defiantly looks better and will probly still be the cheapest

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Originally Posted by sneeze

i think your actually a closet triton fan.

On a still not very serious note I had a look at the new triton yesterday. First time Iv thought a new model was an overall improvement, though that could say more about the last one than the new. Power/torque 135kw/437nm are up, 25% more torque at 1500rpm, kept the great tuning circle and even made an attempt to increase exit angle. Kept the 10 year drivetrain warranty,defiantly looks better and will probly still be the cheapest

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$47k for top spec auto currently
Very good value for money but im yet to test drive.

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Originally Posted by sneeze

i think your actually a closet triton fan.

On a still not very serious note I had a look at the new triton yesterday. First time Iv thought a new model was an overall improvement, though that could say more about the last one than the new. Power/torque 135kw/437nm are up, 25% more torque at 1500rpm, kept the great tuning circle and even made an attempt to increase exit angle. Kept the 10 year drivetrain warranty,defiantly looks better and will probly still be the cheapest

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They are value for money, no question. I seriously thought about it last year when looking to upgrade my Landcruiser. Almost signed the dotted line on a new Triton with all the gear strapped on it. I just couldn't get over the idea that they are pretty damned ugly! Haha.

Then I found another Landcruiser and went with that instead, pleased I did in the end, very hard to go past a Landcruiser in my experience, however --- they're not a ute are they.

Had a sniff at the new model Triton yesterday, they do look a bit better than the older model. :)

One thing I do like about driving a Landcruiser though, is unlike almost every other 4wd on the road, there's not literally dozens of trucks the same passing you everyday. Sh*t I see some Hilux's and Rangers and Tritons on the roads down here. Like to be a bit different :D

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Originally Posted by sneeze

i think your actually a closet triton fan.

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Think I would rather just come out of the closet than admit that fella😆

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Originally Posted by R93

Think I would rather just come out of the closet than admit that fella��

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You own a blaser and drive a hilux....i think we all know already .

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Originally Posted by JoshC

They are value for money, no question. I seriously thought about it last year when looking to upgrade my Landcruiser. Almost signed the dotted line on a new Triton with all the gear strapped on it. I just couldn't get over the idea that they are pretty damned ugly! Haha.

Had a sniff at the new model Triton yesterday, they do look a bit better than the older model. :)

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A bit like saying Bett Midler is better looking than Susan Boyle though eh

Ha, something like that. Although there are some creatures uglier than Susan roaming the streets down here I can tell you...

Interesting thread. I will be back in NZ mid October and will need a vehicle so I've started to do some research now.

Have not really looked at cars for over 12 years because I get a new company vehicle every 3 years.

Looking at getting something like a utility (ute) with quad cab and 4WD but undecided on many features

- deck type
- auto vs. manual transmission
- petrol vs. diesel

I would like to buy from an local Invercargill dealer for service / repairs.

Mitsubishi Triton
Triton Ute | Mitsubishi Motors New Zealand

Nissan Navara
Nissan New Zealand - Navara

Toyota Hilux
Toyota - Hilux 4WD Double Cab SR5 Diesel Specifications

Ford Ranger
Ford New Zealand - All-New Ranger

Mazda BT50
http://www.mazda.co.nz/model/new-bt-...le-cab/4wd-glx

Any one got any experience with any of the above ?

Add the Isuzu to your list

Isuzu 4wd Utes & SUV » Isuzu Utes New Zealand

I've been drinking but here it goes, Landcruiser shouldn't even come into these conversations! fuck me a 80 series cruiser is still more refined than any off the new utes out there and I just picked up my new 200 series but to be fair they haven't come a long way. I'm a Toyota fan through and through but now as a tritin owner I don't think anything comperes as far as refinement in a road utility, 4WD capability I'm not sure yet?
Every one talks about the older models being better but when you take into consideration how much more power the new ones have verse the old ones and there road driveability, has any one actually put one to the test? A new one will out 4wd an old one tomorrow (standard) bar the cost factor. Sure a 20K vehicle will go more places than a 100K one (by choice), but side by side? I have no whish to f*@k my new cruiser unnecessarily but at the end of the day they were worth the same money.
And people that complain about being supplied a vehicle, well I don't know what to say? supply your own!
At the end off the day I don't care, it's no different to which gun is better, something I'm still trying to work out! pro's and con's:thumbsup:

And anyway has anybody driven one yet?

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Originally Posted by Mauser308

You really need to decide what you actually want the ute to do.

Once you have that sorted, then you can look at the specs and drop probably half the options.

Then it's a case of shopping around and finding out who gives you the best deal and service package, and who can offer the best deal on the fruity bits you want to hang off it.

I wouldn't wander into a dealer and expect to get the best of everything, look at it that way! Especially with the newer options, they may not even be able to answer so questions...

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I think thats the hardest part.

Especially when your new to the ute market.

Like i am looking at them and mostly it will be a city drive to work car but it will also get trips all over the show long distance ( Auckland, Wellington etc )
as well as lots of work with stock cars and towing trailers
as well as 4x4 more up rivers and farm tracks / paddocks type of work then deep mud.

We are looking to purchase bare land to graze cattle on and will get used a lot for that and shooting off the back of
They all seem to fall into the being generally about the same ( test driving this weekend tho )
I have been trawling the specs, pricing and servicing so far.
Picks so far are a 2nd hand ranger, Dmax, Hilux and triton

Bt50 is ugly and i cant get passed that
Vw is to pricy and read to many poor reviews on its towing performance.
New ranger is out of my pricing atm But if i wait and save its on the cards

I like the look of the new Nissan np300 Navara replacement but they will be way out of my pricing.

In the last 11 years I've had a Landrover Freelander, a 2006 Holden ute, followed by a 2009 Holden Colorado, nice ute, then didn't like the mechanicals on the new Holden so bought the 2013 Ford Ranger, the Ranger is well ahead of the others, but I expect that, Mauser 308 right it's a personal thing, I think you should buy new technology if buying new, cause small advances add up. I Will look again at the market in 2017 for my next one. Will probably choose mechanics and cc' s over fancy looking. Waiting for the next 2 litre Amarok withFour Hair Dryers, now that would whistle!

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Originally Posted by 199p

I think thats the hardest part.

Especially when your new to the ute market.

Like i am looking at them and mostly it will be a city drive to work car but it will also get trips all over the show long distance ( Auckland, Wellington etc )
as well as lots of work with stock cars and towing trailers
as well as 4x4 more up rivers and farm tracks / paddocks type of work then deep mud.

We are looking to purchase bare land to graze cattle on and will get used a lot for that and shooting off the back of
They all seem to fall into the being generally about the same ( test driving this weekend tho )
I have been trawling the specs, pricing and servicing so far.
Picks so far are a 2nd hand ranger, Dmax, Hilux and triton

Bt50 is ugly and i cant get passed that
Vw is to pricy and read to many poor reviews on its towing performance.
New ranger is out of my pricing atm But if i wait and save its on the cards

I like the look of the new Nissan np300 Navara replacement but they will be way out of my pricing.

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The Mitsibushi Triton was in the paper on the weekend for32 k for the auto 2 wheel drive that is so cheap, if you like dogs but that just my opinion, they're giving away Nissan as well must tell you some thing?

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Originally Posted by KiwiinSeattle

Interesting thread. I will be back in NZ mid October and will need a vehicle so I've started to do some research now.

Have not really looked at cars for over 12 years because I get a new company vehicle every 3 years.

Looking at getting something like a utility (ute) with quad cab and 4WD but undecided on many features

- deck type
- auto vs. manual transmission
- petrol vs. diesel

I would like to buy from an local Invercargill dealer for service / repairs.

Mitsubishi Triton
Triton Ute | Mitsubishi Motors New Zealand

Nissan Navara
Nissan New Zealand - Navara

Toyota Hilux
Toyota - Hilux 4WD Double Cab SR5 Diesel Specifications

Ford Ranger
Ford New Zealand - All-New Ranger

Mazda BT50
BT-50 4WD Double Cab GLX | Mazda New Zealand

Any one got any experience with any of the above ?

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noooooooo bring a ram 2500 or f250 over with u :thumbsup:

Yeah baby bring one for me, but not a left hooker!��

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Originally Posted by cambo

Well if you do want 1, you're probably going to miss out till the next shipment arrives. TNZ could only secure 800 vehicles for now, and by the sounds they are pretty much all presold. Unsure when there will be more arriving.
TNZ already have a few there but due to restrictions no one on courses this week was allowed to take photos etc. Worldwide release was yesterday, but NZ's full release is not until October.
Toyota is at max production levels worldwide, and can't produce any more vehicles to fill all the orders.

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Further to the denial of "most of this" by Mr X who works at the Corporate HO of Toyota NZ, it is in fact near exactly what my son recalls being said when he attended the staff training day on them. So it looks like Cambo has had a real raw deal.

Yip i definitely feel for cambo
He has allways put up great 1st hand information that has been so helpful to the forum.
Such a crock of shit if he gets it in the neck.

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Originally Posted by Maca49

The Mitsibushi Triton was in the paper on the weekend for32 k for the auto 2 wheel drive that is so cheap, if you like dogs but that just my opinion, they're giving away Nissan as well must tell you some thing?

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:D Iv had "dogs" since the late 80s. Not purebreds, just your run of the mill working dog with price tag to match.They've all been very well behaved , loyal and reliable and never let me down. Stayed with the same breed because of it and the top service from the local dog selling station.

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Originally Posted by sneeze

:D Iv had "dogs" since the late 80s. Not purebreds, just your run of the mill working dog with price tag to match.They've all been very well behaved , loyal and reliable and never let me down. Stayed with the same breed because of it and the top service from the local dog selling station.

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So you own a Land Rover then!:thumbsup:

No, I used the extra money a landrover would have cost me to buy a house.

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Originally Posted by sneeze

No, I used the extra money landrover maintainance would have cost me to buy a house.

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fixed it for ya

Good advice all around, will definitely need some more calculated thought as to what is "fit for purpose" - was just looking at UTE as opposed to SUV so I didn't need a trailer to carry a quad bike - which is another can of worms in itself. I've ruled out the "need" for air conditioning, navigation system, etc in Southland. Cannot imagine driving any further North than Christchurch - from Invercargill.

As for the Mazda BT-50 - point noted - what self respecting Kiwi bloke would drive an ugly vehicle.

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Originally Posted by Munsey

@cambo ,you got any info on the engine ? ( European ? Japanese ? ) .

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From Wiki

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The 1GD-FTV is a 2.8L (2755cc) straight-4 common rail diesel engine with a variable geometry turbocharger and Intercooler. It has 16 valves and a DOHC (double overhead camshaft) design. Its compression ratio is 15.6:1. Bore x stroke is 92.0 mm x 103.6 mm. It generates 177 horsepower (132 kW) at 3400 rpm, and 450 newton metres (330 lbf·ft) of torque at 1400-2600 rpm when mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission, depending on target market and emission specifications. With manual transmission, outputs are 177 horsepower (132 kW) and 420 newton metres (310 lbf·ft).[citation needed] Average fuel consumption (in JC08 method) is 11.2 km/l.[2]

This engine was first used in Toyota Land Cruiser Prado, second generation Toyota Fortuner and eighth generation Toyota Hilux.

And why the hell does New Zealand miss out on the 178Kw V6 Petrol!!! TNZ pull your head out!

Its funny how much infomation is on the net.

Ask the dealers and they havnt got any infomation 10min on the net and you have it on your finger tips.

Triton, hilux, nissian np300, holden colardo all now made in same factory in thailand.
They have the choice e of leaf spring or coil 5bar for rear suspension.
There own motor and gearbox choice but the rest is all preddy standard with a few cosmetic changers.

The new hilux with 6 speed manual and 4 litre v6 would be a fun truck in the wet. That would be the only one I'd buy.

Youd have to pull a petrol tank behind you and lengthen the depths of your pockets!

Be a pretty close run thing by the time you took dieselkms and service costs into it.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Be a pretty close run thing by the time you took dieselkms and service costs into it.

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Yeah but at least you feel way better at the pump when filling up;)

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Be a pretty close run thing by the time you took dieselkms and service costs into it.

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Mazda has capped services to $200

Most are 10 - 15k new np300 is 20k overseas.

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Originally Posted by BRADS

Yeah but at least you feel way better at the pump when filling up;)

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When ya spending nearly a couple grand on gas a month you tend not to look at the pump anyway. [emoji16]


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You took it to a Ford Dealer then?

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Originally Posted by JoshC

The new hilux with 6 speed manual and 4 litre v6 would be a fun truck in the wet. That would be the only one I'd buy.

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I had one of the v6 petrols. You need to seriously choose your tyres. With standard tyres that they come with they are dangerous in the wet. With 4x4 tyres they are a coffin.

The tundra doesnt seem to be a coffin.

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Originally Posted by 199p

Mazda has capped services to $200

Most are 10 - 15k new np300 is 20k overseas.

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I'm sure they new ranger is 20k could be wrong

Speaking of service costs, I have a bill from our local Toyota dealer for servicing two hilux's.
The first hilux is a 2003 sr5 3.0l diesel done 180 000km and the cost of service was $461.20 which included replacing front brake pads.

The second hilux is a 2009 sr5 3.0l diesel that has done 90000 km and the cost of that service was $1073.01, which included a wheel alignment and the lousy injector seats/seal replacement.
So all up cost $1534.21 for two hilux's to be serviced!