Just under half in the Ranger, 45L and two 20L fuel cans was $188 about. Then topped off the car and 2 20L petrol cans for the garden toys, plus another $165. At least I got two sets of Gull discount vouchers... Ouch.
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Just under half in the Ranger, 45L and two 20L fuel cans was $188 about. Then topped off the car and 2 20L petrol cans for the garden toys, plus another $165. At least I got two sets of Gull discount vouchers... Ouch.
Takes me 1 hour 20min to fill the 2000L tank at Gull, cause they permit one fill going to $200 before its: put nozzle back in slot-go get receipt enter credit card go get nozzle start filling , rinse and repeat!:yaeh am not durnk:-.
Waitomo machines are still stuck on the $150 limit which is now a serious inconvenience!
Gull diesel taihape today $2.65 till tomorrow lunch time.
Waiouru has really dropped their price lately as well.
$3.15 in Ohakune though!
.50c difference on 50l fill with some 20ldeisel drums for the tractor worth the trip if I can tie it in with something else!
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Winchester is by far the cheapest fuel down here...take note @Thar @Brian its not much further at all if heading inland towards tekapo to carry on down SH1 and fill then back track 100mtrs and head inland again,will hit the roundabout and flick left to by pass Geraldine completely....$2.70 there today for diesel ,petrol is closer in price to the other pumps but still beats it by a little...its a McKewon site so keep an eye on thier others.
Mckeown fuel pumps in Fairlie too. Bp is outrageous, stay away!
The phone app Gaspy is wicked.
Back to the intent of the thread, while I am not buying anything anytime soon, and I hate filling up no matter what I have, the way things are, I would be buying a petrol
Close to $400 to fill the Landcruiser, it lasts about 8 days around town.
30 odd years ago there was a Shell service station in Blenheim Road Ch-Ch that closed, the building is still there and is used for a Mechanical workshop.
Shell spent thousands trying to track down fuel losses on the site, testing tanks and lines, checking the fuel pumps weren't over delivering, theft etc.
When they abandoned the site and removed the tanks etc an additional suction line was pulled up which went under the back fence into the neighbours property, attached to the other side of the fence was a semi rotary hand pump with 3m of hose.
Turned out years before it closed a plumber lived over the fence and whilst it was under a tank upgrade he snuck out and teed into a suction line and quickly buried it.
Would have been pissed off when it closed...
I can't quite work out why no one has built a replacement diff head that contains an electric motor/generator - you could replace the diff head in your ute with that add a hybrid type battery pack under the body and not only would you then have an assist motor for slow speeds and towing which would reduce a lot of wear and tear on starting off with heavy trailers - it would make a bloody handy electromagnetic retarder on downhills when towing. On a modern common rail it would be good for a 2-3L/100Km fuel saving I reckon...
Got dragged over to New Plymouth on Monday by my son to collect a 1.8T Dear John wide area mower. A short 13hr day.. Took my Ranger and he hired a big tandem car trailer. The mower juuust fitted on the trailer after removing two dolly wheels off the side decks. Anyway, enjoyed a solid 2.5hrs heading back fully into a head wind, averaged 18.3 l/100k consumption. Once we were out of the wind and cut inland, big improvement, got down to 12.7 l for the final two hours in the dark. I think the final gas bill was about $400 incl RUCs.
My son was going to take his '99 Expedition and I'd guess the bill would have been double that.
That's the thing with diesels, cost doesn't go up that much with the increase in fuel consumption. Petrol going up from 8.5l/100 to 18l or more like it can with a bigger petrol towing is just cost prohibative. Mate's big V8 petrol used to get up to 35l/100Km on the napier-taupo, on 96 too. Around $115 every 100km... Ouch!
Yeah, it seems that diesel economy can be counter intuitive when asking a ute sized wagon to haul heavy loads. Happens all the time in the Aussie outback. Take a 2.5T Landcruiser, put 1T worth of kit on it, then haul a 2T trailer/camper and be sucking 30-35L/100km. Put all that weight into a 5 Tonne Unimog with a 5.9L turbo intercooled donk and find it returning 25-30L/100km
Here's what my mate down there had to say about it. He was in fuel distrib'n:
That would be the corner of Middleton Rd and Blenheim Road. Was a Shell servo opposite as well. That would help explain why they said it was ‘uneconomic’ to keep them open. The one on the other side has been a car yard for many years. I guess opportunity and ability are always incentives to be creative.
I'd be pretty happy with that!
I tow pretty much all winter with my 200 series. My average fuel consumption for the last financial year was 14.7 litres/100km. That’s about 40% Highway, 40% gravel logging/country roads and 20% proper off road. Running 34 inch mud tyres, tuned with a 3 inch exhaust. A huge part of that is how you drive them. They’re not as thirsty as people think, given the work mine does anyway. Still makes the eyes water when it costs $300 odd to fill up at least once a week [emoji23]
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My daily work hack is a Late model VX Ltd 4.5 ltr V8, it has a 138 ltr fuel tank. Generally run it from full until the fuel warning light comes on, then look for a gas station, preferably Mobil as I have a Super Card which gives you 16 cents off per litre, only problem is the price of diesel can vary that much from one end of the street to the other in Auckland.
As for a work hack they are bloody comfortable vehicle and have a heap of snot. I don't tow a lot in it, have just clicked over 100k in 3.5 years so it will see me through until I check out.
Up until recently I never use to worry about fuel costs but now we pay a little more attention to it.
When the guys get the mini tanker in to fill the excavators and other equipment on our construction sites we get them to fill the utes as well, it's generally well below gas station pump prices.
Should have installed a 50kl tank in our yard 2 years ago and filled it, it would have outperformed any sharemarket investment.
Or become contaminated with diesel bug... :thumbsup:
Few years back we were doing a job where we had to renew some underground diesel tanks, we had to remove the diesel and temporarily store it and put it back into the new tanks after they were installed. Some bright spark of an engineer thought it would be good to take a sample of the fuel for diesel but, got us to take the sample and sent it away to the lab, result came back all clear with a comment that there diesel was the old high sulphur type. The client was turning a little green and decided that it would be better for them to pay us to dispose of it and fill the tanks with new diesel. We clipped the ticket both ways and ended up with a shitload of the stuff, our modern diesels seemed to run on it ok.
Diesel bug is easily controlled, it loves moisture, there’s many ways to keep it out of your storage system.
Yeah, one way they do it locally is turning over the entire tank every 2 or 3 days. That way it gets sold to become someone elses problem I think - very weird how no one from the companies gets back to you when you query it!
A few options - dose the tank with toxic chemicals which kills the microbes, get inside and clean the tank, circulate the fuel thru UV filters but ultimately you need to stop the ingress of water/moisture. It's all doable, just all depends on how deep your pockets are and how many end users you want to piss off.
Companies with standby generators have this at the top of there hit list, especially data centers.
I've done several marine cleans with an economy sized 1 mic filter and chemical treatment - the biggest problem there is some of the prickiest bugs will pass through a 1mic filter, uv doesn't kill it off fully and chemicals the same. I had one that we finally got after two polish cycles vacuuming out the bottom of the tank and on UV cycle as well as several chemical treatments, the one that sorted it finally was the Wynns EDT. I've kept using that one ever since and it seems to work reliably although I've had one failure with my own ute where it was discovered to have bug through the fuel system from tank, lift pump and filter and we assume all the way through everything else...
I will say though that we still aren't 100% convinced that it was actually a 'diesel bug' species and not some other sort of contamination, mechanic never kept the sample and without getting it tested you just can't be certain. It was really light and fine and stayed in suspension in the fuel which is a little unusual. No water present either... Seems like injectors and high pressure pump are fine as well which is unusual for these and bug - the issue that I have with the limp mode coming on and which kicked off the fuel system cleanout appears to be related to the suction control valve not opening quickly enough as you come over the top of a hill on cruise control and the injector duty cycle drops right back to idle. That's giving a pressure spike in the fuel rail which is tripping the 'fuel rail pressure out of specification' DTC and limp mode coming up. Fun and games, combined with the fact that I'm not using the thing in favour of the petrol car which is cheaper. Need to do some long trips and get some diagnostic data recorded!
Diesel vs petrol
They both drive totally different. I choose Diesel for towing heavy loads. Asides that and deep river crossings there is no no advantage cost wise
The latest diesels with auto trans are no different to the petrols, they even turn off at the lights and restart when you hit the loud pedal. The last one I hopped into I had to check it had two labels... Bloody awful to drive to be honest, the aircon system had half of the buttons on the dash and the rest buried in bloody menus in the touchscreen. Prick of an idea.
my grand cherokee does 9l/100km on my ats, towing makes it 10/100 . does 11l/100km on muddies. i think thats decent milage.
Not too bad, those are petrol hey? What engine size?
iv got the 2.7 diesel. i wouldnt own a petrol jeep in this country you dont get the bang for buck theyre made for.
i had the 4l petrol and the worst mileage i ever got was 160km from a tank towing our small caravan through the sounds from nelson to french pass and back. id still own another one regardlesss those trucks are awesome offroaders.
Ouch, yeah that would be a little sore in the hip pocket with current petrol prices...
The new "Petroleum Fuels Engine Monitoring Levy" kicks in tomorrow, price on petrol & diesel will increase $0.06 per litre from 1st July.
Watching all these figures, I thought I would check out my F economy, it’s a 2014 2.4 Subaru Outback with all terrain tyres and lots of short hops around town. Heavy car with what could be considered an undersized motor. I try to be fugal but at heart I do push it at times probably because there’s not a lot of GO with the CTV gearbox as well, insipid. Bit stunned basically only 10ks per litre. Taking it for a run shortly so hoping that improves.
With all this climate change / electric BS etc I’m not inspired, at my time of life, to splash any more money on vehicles
we had a chat at work about fuel economy. our fuel bill has more than doubled since last year. partially explained as we have more technicians but it is really rough when you're unable to fully pass on the increased costs to service the client and thus have to eat it.
Anyone own a petrol 200 series ? Curious about real world mileage with them
I have one simple functional fuel saver measure which helps me bigtime - a light right foot. I purposefully drive on the first one inch of throttle. That is quite enough for all city driving/acceleration, and almost all open road bar overtaking and hills. My 4x4 3.1 Bighorn does 9.7 to 10.3L per 100ks on open road with 32" muds, and the little 1.5 Toyota ist runabout does 6.7L round town, and 5.6L per 100ks (50.3mpg) on open road. Apply the right foot, start quirting juice in and the equation changes very quickly.
The one inch rule of course does not apply to sportscars... Though even then my 350Z would return 31+mpg (9.1L/100ks), and Skyline 350GT Coupe gave 33mpg at best (8.6L/100k) on open road. With cops about. :)
I have been convinced for years that Autos use more fuel hence why I still drive a manual
That is a fair but somewhat moot point nowadays, as in a lot of vehicles you now cannot get anything other than a CVT auto...
Yes and yes maybe.
Old autos were shit house to drive and shit house for economy.
New autos have lots of gears and lock up in every gear and in theroy could be more efficient than a manual.
However in theroy there is no difference between theroy and practice but in practice there is always difference to theroy;)
Yeah, my 3.6l Outback with the lineartronic CVT, gets around 8 to 8.5l/100kms on the open road.
Sits at around 1700rpm and just runs on the torque.
Gets a bit thirsty around town (especially when enjoying the acceleration 221kws gives you[emoji51])but combined I average around 10, really impressed with it for a bigger displacement engine.
Must say too, the new generation of CVT are a MASSIVE improvement in the early ones with chains driving the coupling rather than a rubber belt.
I was always wary of them after the early ones but this Subaru one is fantastic to drive and very reliable.
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I've got two RAV4, one diesel one gas, 2014 diesel in NZ and a 2015 gas in Canada, same spec vehicle.
average between 7.5-8L a 100km in the Diesel, down to 6l on the likes of the Canterbury Plaines.
8.5-9l on the gas, per 100km best i can get on the flat Pairire is 7.8 ish.
stop and go in town and traffic, the gas goes way up 13l or so, the diesel doesn't jump much. not seen it over 10l yet,
Travel in NZ is steeper and more turns, than were I am in Canada.
I recond its about 2.5 liters difference per hundred. given similar driving conditions, except round town,
the gas is more responsive, better round town,
I like the diesel more, as it holds speed much more readily on the open road,
regular 87 grade gas in Canada $1.89, diesel is $2.03 last few days.
Gas makes more sense here, and very few diesel SUV about,