Thread: Petrol V EV technolgy from America

Originally Posted by Beetroot

The charging time would be killer on long trips 45mins to get 75 miles (120kms) of range would be a total nightmare.
Most places in NZ you'd be hard pressed to find such nice straight roads with minimal incline, add in some hills like you'd be driving down SH1 from Hamilton south and it'd be even worse.
Range gets killed by the cold also so worst case scenario would be bloody awful.
6000lbs is only 2700kg so it's to a ridiculous load, considering a typical NZ/AU diesel 4x4/ute would be at worst 20l/100kms (about 11.76 US MPG) the case for an electric work vehicle just doesn't add up.

I was suprised to see it cost them $27 to charge from 9% to 74%.
In NZ money 66% charge (of a 131kW battery at $0.30 per kW) would cost $26, which got them about 66miles, works out to be $24 per 100km.
Diesel at its current crazy prices is roughly $2.80/Litre, using the worst case scenario of 20l/100km works out to be $56 per 100km.
Using a more realistic 14l/100kms would be $40 per 100km.
Using a previously high diesel price ($1.50/Litre) at 14L/100km works out at $21 per 100km.

I've left out RUCs becasue EVs will start paying these too sometime in the near future.

If you are worried abotu the cost of fuel and commute less than 100km a day then just buy a used Nissan Leaf for commuiting and keep the Land Crusier for long trips.
The current cost of fuel makes an EV ute/truck seem quite appealing, but if that comes with the massive inconvience of 45minutes of charging every 120km then that just wont cut it.

The other thing is chargers, theres bugger all and there mostly 50KW(slow as fuck) chargers where as the TFL video they charged at mostly 150KW chargers so the time to recharge is 3X faster then what is mostly avaliable in NZ

Search TFL truck theve done heaps of travel and comparisons between most trucks, watched their video on picking up the ford lighting truck in detroit and driving it back to Colorado

Also reguarding maintenace they have suspension, wheel bearing, brakes, all eletronic fuckery( aerials, door handles, fancy switches, all sorts of actuators) some have liguid cooled motors
and heating for the car - batterys, seats, windows, steering wheel, and whatever else they still have alot of parts that are unique to them so parts as very pricey as no aftermarket parts for alot of them.
Follow afew youtubers who post what their tesla has broken and the price that it costs mostly repaired under warranty - saw one video where a tesla broke its front drive unit was 18,000$us and only 2
years old and 35k miles was replaced under warranty but as soon as they go out of warranty stay away absolute shit boxes the ammount of parts that brake/malfunction is mind boggling for such modern low km cars