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Ok, so....I think i've settled on a Prado to double as the family vehicle while also useable for camping/hunting trips.
I hear people mention things like what year engines were the best, or one particular year they had issues with that engine...bla bla.
So what should I expect to pay for a 2006-2010 Prado with not much more than 100k on the clock? And were there any particular year models to look out for in the last 10yrs?
Rare as rocking horse crap but look out for a manual, mate has one and for a dirty ole 3l coal burner its blimmin quick, his is cranking up to 300k and still doesn't mis a beat.
I think generally they're pretty good trucks. My boss has ~350kms on his 2003 VX diesel one. Still drives ok. No issues with it so far.
Check out some of the Toyota forums in Australia, they are full of helpful information.
If it has the 3 litre D4D engine then Make sure you keep the MAP sensor filter clean, this keeps your boost in time with the throttle, restores lost boost, and also keep your airflow sensor clean to avoid horsepower loss.
All Hiluxes benefit from this service as well.
First remove plastic engine cover
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The MAP sensor filter is the filter centre pic with the grey base and black top, it has a gauze inside which gets filled with engine breather oil mist and slows boost response dramatically.
Use carb cleaner ONLY and spray it into the grey base intake until no more black contaminate comes out
Lightly blow with compressed air until clear of carb cleaner., reinstall.
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The airflow sensor is nearly on top of the airfilter
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There is no need to remove the electrical fitting, just remove the two screws and twist as you lift out, the airflow sensor looks like two wires with a resin covered resistor at the end.
Spray clean with mass Air Flow Sensor cleaner ONLY
Dont be a cheap bastard and try a home remedy, supercheap have the crc or nulon aerosol product, do it right and you will have a clean resistor with no residue on it, follow the instructions on the can.
When clean you will see the resistor is a slightly yellow colour and you can see the shiny wires inside it.
Reassemble.
Fuel usage with 40 psi in road tyres should average 7.7 litres per 100km.
Dont get me started on disabling EGR valves and the carbon they put in the inlet manifold.
Research putting a filter (catch can with filter) in the engine breather pipe so it removes the oil mist before it enters the inlet manifold (and unfortunately enables carbon buildup there :( )
Check every 10,000 km when you do a service and you will maintain top fuel economy.
The D4D engines like Shell Helix ultra 5W - 40
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Haha thanks Saum.
Test drove a 2015 yesterday with the new 2.8l diesel 6 speed auto. Can't find much info on the engine - anyone in the know? General consensus online seems to be positive but I wonder if it's as reliable as the older 3l?
Definitely seemed quieter than the hiluxes i'm used to driving. Power is hard to compare as hiluxes take off quicker being smaller and lighter.
Well @cambo :)?Quote:
Originally Posted by scottrods
Sorry been away from comp.
The new Prado with the new 2.8 is very quiet compared to the older D4's. Seemed to go alright though.
Too early to say what they'll be like yet. Same engine as the new Hilux's.
Only seen 1 of the new Prado's through work so far as a demo vehicle. Can't tell you much else as we haven't had the blurb yet either.
If you're looking at a used vehicle, best advise is to get it checked out! So many people bring vehicles into us to be checked over ONCE they have purchased only to find it is a pile of crap.
Unless you're going to be doing a heap of towing, the 4L V6 would be hard to look past. Very nice smooth V6 and plenty of grunt.
Cheaper to buy, and cheaper to maintain than a diesel . Only downside is resale value. They don't hold their price like the diesel models.
Ended up pulling the trigger on a brand new GX with 2.8l diesel. Get it in a couple weeks. Pretty excited...first decent vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
Thought about the petrol but it's only available in VX with the new model and the budget already doubled so another 10k was too much. Not fussed on leather either - always hot or cold.
What do you figure a litre of diesel actually costs if you figure in road charges and maintenance?
my guess, more than petrol.
AA calculate diesel and RUC's together as $1.45/L for a vehicle doing 14000kms on average per year.
But by my calculations:
RUC's for a Prado are about $68/1000kms
Rego is $270/yr
Basic servicing would be $520/yr with no extras like wipers, air filters, diff oils, brake fluid, brake pads, tyres etc. (Unless you got a service plan with the purchase)
Add it all up and it gets pricey. :o
Got 5 years warranty and 5 years free services.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
I thought RUC's were set at 50-odd bucks per 1000k's? Well researched obviously but it wouldn't of changed the decision. Wanted a 7 seater and i'm sold on Toyotas after working in aus and watching them eat dust, extreme heat and shitty roads for years on end and we never had one break down. Few flat batteries that was it, and these vehicles were doing 20-40k a year.
I think you have made a good choice MattyP - they look nice
My wife and I sat in a new Prado for about ten minutes at the Waikato Field-days recently - all the Sales people were talking with the TV fishing star who was on their stand - so we left
I got a WOF for my Cruiser in Tauranga a couple of months back and spent about half an hour looking at a new Prado with a sales lady - she said they would get me a price on my Cruiser that was out the back - never heard back from her
Went over to the Toyota yard in Tauranga yesterday and looked at a 2013 Cruiser and a slightly used 2015 Prado for about ten minutes - sales people were all too busy inside - so f**K them
When I am ready I will go over to Thames where I will get some respect
I reckon Toyota sales service rates with real estate agents - absolute crap - they get their money too easy :wtfsmilie:
Nice choice MattyP.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyP
You will have to bring it into my work (Ilam Toyota) when you need the servicing done ;)
You work there!? Fuck sake, haha. Was there a few days ago looking at the Prado's when we were still thinking of getting one a couple years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
Bought from Miles in the end - on Montreal Street. Same chain isn't it? So can we get our 5yrs of servicing done by you :)?
Edit - that's rough, time out. Pretty bad luck. I've had to laugh a few times when i've struggled to get service at a harvey norman or similar because all the salespeople flock to the guy in business attire. Then finally one who isn't as superficial comes to have a chat and in one case I walked out with a 65" ultra HD Sony a few mins later while the other younger sales rep was looking on in frustration while he kept trying to pitch something to the guy he'd chosen to serve instead of me. Sounds like a few dickheads like that have missed out on a sale with you.
Yup all same family. City is the Mothership.
We can do all the necessary things for you at the Ilam Asylum
Sounds like i'll see you for its first service and a chat then! I'm sure by then you'll be all over this new engine haha. None to play with yet? Give me a heads up if you see any that have had dramas!
I guess not much has changed father was interested in a hilux as change from landrovers the salesmans didnt turn up so he has had mitsis since 1981.They do not seem to learn.I had the same getting back into roadbikes only one got back to me guess who I buy off and get services done.Quote:
Originally Posted by time out
Nice choice MattyP.
Shame there are regional differences between dealerships, personally I've had nothing but positive experiences with our local/Bowaters.
They didn't want to sell us a new truck. Went in to the Nelson one, climbed all thru a New Hilux.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moutere
Can't have looked like we had money cause the salesmen all looked at us but no one came over, they just went back to yakking.
Their loss, brought a BT50 from NI instead (palmside motors??) wasn't new but came with all the xtras and left me with quite a bit more money in the bank :) .
We would have brought a new Hilux on the day but..........
Wouldn't go back, they had their chance
I shop the same as you mikee if the service ain't there they can get fucked.
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Everybody gets the same chance with me, I have worked in service industries all my life. I have learn t that you don't judge a persons spending by the WAY THEY LOOK,Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
Good mate of mine, has a friend in Edmonton Alberta, he has been top salesman for ten years running, at both the Chev and Mercedes, dealership he has been at, His saying is "tradies and whores are the ones with money", see a guy who looks more like, he might steel it that buy it, rush over its likely a tradie. flash suit, waste of time, most times.