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    Toyota Prado 1996 (ish)

    I've been looking at selling my old 1994 ln106 hilux for something more highway freindly, does anyone here know any issues to look out for with these cars? I would be looking at the 3lt (non turbo probably) most of them seem to have around the 250k's on the clock. It would be used for a bit of soft roading at the most but more for towing my current boat - and probably the next one (bigger one )

    I've been looking at:
    - Toyota Prado 3.0 TX LTD 1997 | Trade Me
    - Toyota Land Cruiser Prado PRADO TX 7-SEATER 1996 | Trade Me

    I would probably lean towards the non turbo for reliability?

    Any pointers would help

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    get the solid axle ones bro, best of both worlds, comfy highway use with coils, pretty good articulation with soild axle and coils. Cheaper and more reliable too!

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    The 3.0l 1KZTE diesel engine is bulletproof, as long as it's serviced. The Prado is a great vehicle but in 230,000 k's I have had to change 2 rear stop lamps

    Ask Cambo - he works on them (or not!)

    (Dunno about the manual, they are pretty rare, most are auto)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pointer View Post
    get the solid axle ones bro, best of both worlds, comfy highway use with coils, pretty good articulation with soild axle and coils. Cheaper and more reliable too!
    Eh are you taking the piss... You mean Patrol? I've got my heart set on one of those 4.2lt Turbo 1999 ish ones but I cant afford them haha and people on trade me want stupid money for the old ones (ie more then ln106's)


    Cheers Stu#, I wouldn't mind auto if its turbo (more grunt) --- A couple of lights you say.. that's pretty rough hah! I might do a bit more looking around


    (ah are you talking about the old school ones pntr?
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    They are holding their value as you cant import them anymore. The low mileage ones are pushing $20k+
    Just regular oil changes (as any diesel) and rountine servicing.

    I've raised mine a bit and fitted some aftermarket suspension as the springs were shot at about 200k

    Rest is "as new" lol

    The do suck a bit of fuel as any 3.0 monster would but there's a large 90 litre (?) tank.

    I would definitely PM Cambo though - he'll give you the good oil I'm sure

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    Hi timmay,

    Both these prados you are looking at are turbo, They are a reliable vehicle but they do have there problems.
    Firstly they crack heads, not every one, but we would do one every couple of weeks in our small toyota dealership. And not just vehicles that are not well serviced.
    Then the rear shocks leak, the front brake hoses perish,and the steering rack bushes flog out and if you are really unlucky the glow plug tips fall off and can make a bit of a mess.
    The majority of these items are run of the mill service items but will need doing if not already done.
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    Titan has pretty much covered the common faults they have.
    Shocks, rack bushes and glow plugs are all easily replaced relatively cheaply. A head job or more gets costly.

    The best thing to do if you are really keen on 1 of these, is to get a comprehensive prepurchase check done by a Toyota dealer.
    AA, VTNZ and the like are a waste of money as they really have no idea, to put it bluntly.

    Get a leakdown and compression tests done. Another test very worth doing is having the glowplugs removed (good time to see if they need replacing), pressurise the cooling system and leave it on for 1/2 hr or so. Then with the injector pump unplugged, crank the engine over. If coolant comes out - it's screwed.
    The reason for this is the heads crack above the valves in the intake ports.

    To be fair, Prado's hold their price really well. So even with high k's you can still be looking at paying 10k plus.
    They do ride nice, but I wish they were a selectable 4wd rather than constant 4wd.
    Being constant 4wd they wear tyres more and can be thirsty, especially if towing.

    Manuals are quite rare and they tend to be the lower spec'ed vehicles like the basic RV model. The autos drive nicely though. No real reason to pick a manual over an auto apart from personal choice. Unless doing heaps of towing, but if your going to be doing that, there are other vehicles that would be better suited.
    The manuals have a 2 piece flywheel, which can be an issue. If there is a metallic rattle on start up it is usually a sign the flywheel is starting to fail.
    There are aftermarket solid kits available which are cheaper and better than the genuine 2 piece part.

    Hope that helps
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    All that info is perfect Thanks Cambo and titan308. I 100% don't want full time 4wd, so that will scratch the prado off the list, with the price of fuel I don't need a bill that's higher.

    What would people recommend other then the usual older safari/patrol as they are just stupid expensive. I don't mind spending around a that 15-16k mark.

    I'm wondering if just spending 1500 to turbo my 3l hilux is the way to go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmay View Post
    Eh are you taking the piss... You mean Patrol? I've got my heart set on one of those 4.2lt Turbo 1999 ish ones but I cant afford them haha and people on trade me want stupid money for the old ones (ie more then ln106's)

    (ah are you talking about the old school ones pntr?
    Yeah mate. Not too sure on specs, the Toyota guys will know, but there was one that came out with hilux diffs and coils front and rear - in Oz the SWB ones were called a bundera. I've only seen jap import LWB ones in NZ but they are bloody good off road and easy to modify. I can't tell you about the exact specs or reliability, I'd say Titan or Cambo will give you the inside info on them. They are cheap, so are older safaris

    But yeah the late 90s GU patrol, awesome!

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    I must say that I like the power output of the Toyota 1KZTE engine, we have one in an AWD Hiace. Sure outstrips the non turbo 4.2 in the Safari going through one of the early slush boxes. Just hope it all stays together and I don't have the cracked head issue. I don't push it hard, though it does a fair bit of towing, and keep the maintenance up.

    Another vehicle I'd consider is a 2.8 Isuzu, good reliable engines and drive trains, nice strong tight diffs. Garnish with a turbo and enjoy. If I had to replace the Safari I'd likely go the Isuzu, getting fed up with 24V systems. Most of the newer stuff, although more powerful, just seems too soft.

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    Yea pointer not sure which model you are on about there.

    the hiluxs don't have solid front end and coils.

    2.4 early hilux Ln65 have leaf springs over solid axle.
    89 on 2.8 Ln106 have leaf springs over solid axle.
    98 hilux Ln167 with 5L has torsion bar on front wishbone suspension.
    2000 on hilux kzn165 1kzte also has torsion bar over wishbone.
    2005 hilux on Kun26r has mcpherson strut with wishbone.

    Could be a option overseas ??

    Timmay another option would be a 96- on surf which is 2wd normally and 4wd is engaged manually when needed , this still has the same 1kzte engine and can be bought in intercooled or non intercooled options. They are also usually cheaper than prados to. 15k would easilly buy you a tidy one.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    Nissan Patrol 1994 | Trade Me has caught my eye. Just don't want one thats got eleventymillion Psi stuffed in it from a massive turbo.

    I think pointer was talking about these sort of prados Titan: Toyota Prado Landcruiser 1990 | Trade Me

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    Go the Surf. KZN185 (1KZTE) inter cooled. More toe than a roman sandal. Wife has one and it eats my 2010 Navara ST-X. Had a new head as the dude we got it off did not tell us that (Trademe).
    Radiators can be a bit shit (plastic) I have been told and was also suggested to get a remote oil cooler. Pretty good on the juice too. Also the auto is sweet. I too was not keen on it but the Surf is really good.

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    Yea +1 for the intercooled surfs!
    Mine does the business, great 4x4 and (family wagon) !!
    Got mine at 300,000kms it had a knocking noise in the top end so i just chucked another engine in and all good!!
    It hadnt had a head done before that though so not a bad run

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    Quote Originally Posted by burtonator View Post
    Yea +1 for the intercooled surfs!
    Mine does the business, great 4x4 and (family wagon) !!
    Got mine at 300,000kms it had a knocking noise in the top end so i just chucked another engine in and all good!!
    It hadnt had a head done before that though so not a bad run

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