2 man bivvy

I still like the Durston you can use with or without inner super light and long enough for big buggers.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4dae86ea2f.jpg

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What's the solution to that, because I've had that happen before and you're right, we got soaked, even though under a good tarp. Use tent instead? Or a bivvy bag over the sleeping bag to catch the fog?

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Using a tent like the xmid or kuiu but pitched with outer only. A large tarp like a 3x3 could be made into an enclosed shelter but you end up weighing just as much as a tent anyway.

I use one of these. Got the half zip version. Does a great job of keeping condensation off the bag if you brush up against tent fly/tarp and real handy for keeping you the bag and sleeping mat together.

Tyvek sleeping bag cover liner waterproof Bivy Bag
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0OmSNr

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Originally Posted by Ned

I use one of these. Got the half zip version. Does a great job of keeping condensation off the bag if you brush up against tent fly/tarp and real handy for keeping you the bag and sleeping mat together.

Tyvek sleeping bag cover liner waterproof Bivy Bag
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0OmSNr

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Only trouble is Tyvek doesn't breath

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What's the solution to that, because I've had that happen before and you're right, we got soaked, even though under a good tarp. Use tent instead? Or a bivvy bag over the sleeping bag to catch the fog?

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Happened to me when camped with a mate and we had the tarp in a lean-to pitch (very open on 3 sides) wasn't any way around it apart from put all our gear back in our bags at night and be grateful our sleeping bags were much warmer than we needed. Body heat from sleeping a little too warm *kind of* cooked the moisture out of the bags, slightly damp on the outside. As mentioned by a few others, going to a tent fly only to cut the weight would be my solution. I tend to be tarp camping in the fairer weather when if things get a bit damp they dry after an hour in the sun the next morning.

I've purchased a Borah Gear 9' x 9' silpoly tarp. Its quite decent with good tie offs and they are really easy to deal with. They appear to have a good following in the US and have about a 4 week lead time. I hope to give it a go soon for an overnight trial before commiting to a serious tops mission.
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My huntech bivy is 1.8 kg with floor and ropes Not too heavy I reckon

I have one of these. The fly alone is under 500gms and very roomy. Complete with inner it is still under 1kg (+ walking poles and pegs).
https://www.sixmoondesigns.com/produ...ltralight-tarp

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I use one of these. Got the half zip version. Does a great job of keeping condensation off the bag if you brush up against tent fly/tarp and real handy for keeping you the bag and sleeping mat together.

Tyvek sleeping bag cover liner waterproof Bivy Bag
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0OmSNr

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Thanks for that. I've grabbed one of these too with the hood.

Macpac have just released a couple of fairly cost-effective trekking-pole style tents.

Some of these weights aren't to far off an actual tent (inner + outer)

I get that dropping weight is the goal, but to me a 2 or 3 hundred gram weight reduction isn't worth potentially getting wet or at least having wet gear?

Most of us would be better dropping weight from the waistline instead of the gear we carry..

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Some of these weights aren't to far off an actual tent (inner + outer)

I get that dropping weight is the goal, but to me a 2 or 3 hundred gram weight reduction isn't worth potentially getting wet or at least having wet gear?

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Agree I recently brought a Zpacks tent 2 person its under that weight with everything.
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Most of us would be better dropping weight from the waistline instead of the gear we carry..

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This is very true, There are plenty of overweight hunters with all the super light weight gears and carbon-fiber everything else!
Slightly guilty of this myself :beer:

Some of us have the other problem being too slight to carry heavy gear