cookers

whats everyone use these days??
just for overnighters


started looking at a jetboil- all in one and not so bulky
but if i get caught out it doesnt look like you can cook say meat etc

your thoughts wise members?

KiwiJames set me up with a jetboil. It works a treat. I use that when living out of a pack and on backcountrys and have those Wharehouse gas plates and BBQ bottle for base camp. Why couldnt you cook meat with the jetboil fitting?

I use a small kovea gas stove.
Had it 20 odd years.

I have a msr international whisperlite multi fuel, great for sub zero temp as it always goes with an absolute roar, I also have two screw on gas cookers, basically a small one and a larger one. My smallest one is a outer limits fantail stove, this gets more use than my others due to being so small. I can fit the cooker and a gas canister into my stainless mug. Perfect for a quick brew or boiling water for dehyd meals.

Jetboil. Like the fact that its self contained , and on the boil seconds after stopping.

It's also nice and light.


Tim

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Originally Posted by R93

KiwiJames set me up with a jetboil. It works a treat. I use that when living out of a pack and on backcountrys and have those Wharehouse gas plates and BBQ bottle for base camp. Why couldnt you cook meat with the jetboil fitting?

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Nah mate. It a Primus Eta 1L pot and MSR Pocket rocket. Same deal as the Jetboil, just more flexible I reckon. I can't claim the idea though as Adam put me onto it first. Now have MSR micro rocket. Slightly lighter, and smaller with better flame distribution.

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Originally Posted by keen fella

I have a msr international whisperlite multi fuel, great for sub zero temp as it always goes with an absolute roar, I also have two screw on gas cookers, basically a small one and a larger one. My smallest one is a outer limits fantail stove, this gets more use than my others due to being so small. I can fit the cooker and a gas canister into my stainless mug. Perfect for a quick brew or boiling water for dehyd meals.

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I have never found the altitude has ever been a factor with gas stoves for NZ hunting, even though the sales pitches bang on about it. I have a Primus Omnifuel liquid fuel stove and a mate the MSR Dragonfly. Both are big, and only good for long trips. Gas is the only way for me now with a MSR Micro Rocket.

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

Nah mate. It a Primus Eta 1L pot and MSR Pocket rocket. Same deal as the Jetboil, just more flexible I reckon. I can't claim the idea though as Adam put me onto it first. Now have MSR micro rocket. Slightly lighter, and smaller with better flame distribution.

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The shrimp boat captain eh? I told him to stop picking his nose or his head would cave in, one day. He has being going hard out ever since, to see if he can make it happen:D

Goes to show how much notice I take of labels eh? I have used it quite a bit and always assumed it was a jetboil.:oh noes:
No matter, it works bloody well.

I still have not sent that skin off. It is pissing the wife off so I will leave it a while longer, yet:thumbsup:

Mini gas cooker off TardMe for $28 and it hasn't let me down - I've got an MSR white spirits stove and it stays at home - the gas cooker folds up to the size of a fat matchbox and the modern cylinders reseal themselves so that and half a set of copper bottom pans/billy and it's good.

The MSR is good but bulky and slower and funnily enough it's loud

I have a couple of small gas stoves but seldom ever use either of them. I also carry a hexamine cooker in my day pack which probably gets more use than the gas cookers.

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Originally Posted by 308

Mini gas cooker off TardMe for $28 and it hasn't let me down - I've got an MSR white spirits stove and it stays at home - the gas cooker folds up to the size of a fat matchbox and the modern cylinders reseal themselves so that and half a set of copper bottom pans/billy and it's good.

The MSR is good but bulky and slower and funnily enough it's loud

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Deafening in a hut the bloody liquid fuel ones. Like a 747 about to take off.

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Originally Posted by Rushy

I have a couple of small gas stoves but seldom ever use either of them. I also carry a hexamine cooker in my day pack which probably gets more use than the gas cookers.

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You use hexi by choice? You really are loosing your marbles.

Taking petrol bomb cookers inside a hut is asking for trouble. About the same risk factor as leaving loaded, cocked without safety on rifles lying around IMO.
Most huts have only one entry/exit and if you are on the wrong side of the cooker when it blows...then, well, you know.
There are burnt out huts all over the country side that testify why they should only be used outside.

I lost a small tent to a petrol stove back in the old country. It flared on ignition and all over rover. :(

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Originally Posted by Eion

You use hexi by choice? You really are loosing your marbles.

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I must have lost my marbles over 40 years ago as I have always carried a hexi cooker in my gear...a hell of a lot less to carry than gas, I don't mind having a hot coffee on a miserable day while others suck cold creek water.

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Originally Posted by Pengy

I lost a small tent to a petrol stove back in the old country. It flared on ignition and all over rover. :(

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Te iringa hut was lost to a fuel burner. Hunter stepped outside for a call of nature or something, and the burner flared - allover rover
Went up 2 weeks later after being asked to retrieve what was left of his rifle (if anything) while I was out there. Fire was so hot and fast that there was half of the ali ladder left that had been leaning on the hut left while the rest of the hut was basically gone.

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Originally Posted by Barefoot

Te iringa hut was lost to a fuel burner. Hunter stepped outside for a call of nature or something, and the burner flared - allover rover
Went up 2 weeks later after being asked to retrieve what was left of his rifle (if anything) while I was out there. Fire was so hot and fast that there was half of the ali ladder left that had been leaning on the hut left while the rest of the hut was basically gone.

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I was in my sleeping bag in Rogers Hut in the Okahu one night when a fellah who did not know how to start a white spirits burner set light to the place. Thankfully there was a fireman in situ who dealt with it quickly. Almost made me get out of bed.

Whats a hexi cooker?

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Originally Posted by Eion

You use hexi by choice? You really are loosing your marbles.

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Eion I am very much a "if it is not broken don't fix it" sort of a guy. I have been using them for 40+ years with out a hiccup so why would I change.

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Originally Posted by Toby

Whats a hexi cooker?

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Hexi or Hexamine is a solid fuel source. It's very similar to the white fire starter bricks you may have seen before. It's an Army issue also, but with a lick of wind or even a drop of rain the stuff wont work. Even if it does it takes 15min to boil a cups canteen of water.

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Originally Posted by Rushy

Eion I am very much a "if it is not broken don't fix it" sort of a guy. I have been using them for 40+ years with out a hiccup so why would I change.

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For me basic training was enough. Maybe the ones you use are good but I'll take my gas any day.

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Hexi or Hexamine is a solid fuel source. It's very similar to the white fire starter bricks you may have seen before. It's an Army issue also, but with a lick of wind or even a drop of rain the stuff wont work. Even if it does it takes 15min to boil a cups canteen of water.

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Sounds like shit. Upgrade Rushy 15min to boil water is slow. My little cooker fits in my pocket so would the smaller gas cans. I like the larger ones though so I can dig em into the ground gets more stable with a big stew brewing

Hexi cooker
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Originally Posted by Eion

Hexi or Hexamine is a solid fuel source. It's very similar to the white fire starter bricks you may have seen before. It's an Army issue also, but with a lick of wind or even a drop of rain the stuff wont work. Even if it does it takes 15min to boil a cups canteen of water.

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Were you trying to run a bath?...a quarter of a tablet will boil enough water for a coffee

I remember being told of a couple of brain boxes who decided to make their toast over a hexi stove. No surprisingly they were sick as afterwards.

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Originally Posted by Spook

Were you trying to run a bath?...a quarter of a tablet will boil enough water for a coffee

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How else do you wash in the field? :P

But in all seriousness, say for morning routine. I boil my water, pour some off into a mess tin to shave with, some into my muesli to rehydrate it and the last I use for a brew. There's a fair bit of water there. When we get issued with Hexi it is one box or four tabs per ration pack/day.

I far prefer to use something like this

Kiwi Camping Micra Gas Stove R&R Sport NZ

Turned up full tilt they will run for ~1 hour from a standard sized gas canister. It's quicker, you can cook right off the flame and as Toby mentioned with the smaller cans, that still provide 30m cooking time, it's a very compact unit.

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Originally Posted by Eion

How else do you wash in the field? :P

But in all seriousness, say for morning routine. I boil my water, pour some off into a mess tin to shave with, some into my muesli to rehydrate it and the last I use for a brew. There's a fair bit of water there. When we get issued with Hexi it is one box or four tabs per ration pack/day.

I far prefer to use something like this

Kiwi Camping Micra Gas Stove R&R Sport NZ

Turned up full tilt they will run for ~1 hour from a standard sized gas canister. It's quicker, you can cook right off the flame and as Toby mentioned with the smaller cans, that still provide 30m cooking time, it's a very compact unit.

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Shaving is not something that happens too much on hunting trips from what I have seen of others...I havn't had a shave since 1986, so my opinion hardly counts on the matter.
All the hexi I have had are in 8 tablet packs...the NZDF kept me supplied for many years and I picked up a 10 pack at a second hand shop a few years ago...the last time I seen it for sale, it was a hell of a price.

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I have one of those!

I never used it, I thought you had to light a fire under it haha

Stuff the Hexi,c4 was far quicker,I was always the grunts best friend when there was a job on.Rest of the time was,"hey holdfast got any quick cook"

Wife

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Originally Posted by Rushy

I was in my sleeping bag in Rogers Hut in the Okahu one night when a fellah who did not know how to start a white spirits burner set light to the place. Thankfully there was a fireman in situ who dealt with it quickly. Almost made me get out of bed.

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thank buggery Rushy that's my fav spot.

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Originally Posted by Splash

thank buggery Rushy that's my fav spot.

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Certainly is lovely in there Splash. A bit of a hike for an old fellah these days.

Hello, my name is ebf I and I have a ultralight tramping gear problem :thumbsup:

Kovea Titanium stove - 88g
MSR Universal Canister Stand - 35g
AMP Titanium Solo Pot (MacPac) - 122g

Canisters I use either MSR Isopro or Kovea

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Hello, my name is ebf I and I have a ultralight tramping gear problem :thumbsup:

Kovea Titanium stove - 88g
MSR Universal Canister Stand - 35g
AMP Titanium Solo Pot (MacPac) - 122g

Canisters I use either MSR Isopro or Kovea

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Not really, not until you shave the grey mist off your face


Tim

I have an old-ish Primus omnifuel, makes the helicopter noises on startup but settles down once it warms up and simmers fairly quietly. Boils water and melts snow faster than any gas cooker I've used, must be cheaper to run on white spirits too - I got it more for multi-day tramping and mountain stuff rather than hunting though, a wee gas cooker is definitely smaller and lighter.

Kovea, "Camp 3 Titan." Is the size of the palm of your hand and made of titanium so it weighs fuck all (88grams). Built in lighter too. Got it for about 50 bucks.

Then one of those 64gram 900ml titanium pots from macpac. Heaviest thing by far in the whole setup is whatever bottle/canister you use. I buy one that fits nicely inside the macpac pot. You can get some unbelievably light cooking setups these days, I was blown away.

As Toby said - I used a large canister for stability last time I was out. Stuck it in the crook of a tree at the campsite then when I went back there 3 months later fired it up again - it burnt no worries til the cuppa of the last day when I had to use the replacement canister I'd brought in and yes I carried the old one out - as an owner of a white spirits burner I'll happily stick with gas

Oh shit I paid too much at $28 they are $18 pp now
Folding Butane Gas Stove | Trade Me

They need to be on flat ground cos they are high and wobbly but I won't go back to my old MSR again

As a grunt of many years I think I only ever used hexi tabs, for cooking when on basic. They are very reliable but they stunk, were dirty and way to friggin slow. Gas was by far the best for a modern soldier. It was a tad noisy if you sat to close to it, making listening for what you should be, hard.
I always carry some these days for starting a fire if I ever need it.

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Originally Posted by R93

As a grunt of many years I think I only ever used hexi tabs, for cooking when on basic. They are very reliable but they stunk, were dirty and way to friggin slow. Gas was by far the best for a modern soldier. It was a tad noisy if you sat to close to it, making listening for what you should be, hard.
I always carry some these days for starting a fire if I ever need it.

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Spot on

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Gas was by far the best for a modern soldier.

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Young whipper snappers.