Hi Has anyone had any experience with these ? Ive had Kahles glass in the past and optically they are excellent . These seem like good value at $2600 ? Thoughts ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYtWAF-aQQ
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Hi Has anyone had any experience with these ? Ive had Kahles glass in the past and optically they are excellent . These seem like good value at $2600 ? Thoughts ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYtWAF-aQQ
Guess I’m the Guinea pig then
I'm pretty sure if you do some digging you will find these are not the nice euro glass you would expect them to be and are actually more of a "made under license" Chinese product
Ive had a look through my mates pair and they were decent. I prefer my geovids but ive used them for a while now and you like what you know, right? Also had a look recently through the new sig 10k. I wasnt much of a fan of glass quality, it seemed they had a bit of a 'blue' hue/ tinge to the picture. Other than that the electronics works incredibly well.
As above id look at the vortex fury with the AB
They are on the way. We will see
I have the 3000bdx and getting the 10k set soon.
The ability of the sig to pair with my kestrel makes up for glass shortfall If any.
Also the price.
The ability for the new 10k to drop a pin to navigate to where you ranged and shot, priceless!
My 3000bdx will range out to 4.5k which is an industry leader.
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Apparently made in Japan are the binoculars. I will put up a review when I use them. I’m coming off 12 years of Leica geovids so we will see.
Pretty good for ranging tanks in ukraine I guess… or staying out of their range.
Keen to hear how you rate them, I was tempted by them a few days ago.
I assumed/hope the sig 10ks provide a grid reference. It would be disappointing if u have to sync to other apps to use the navigation features.
I give another vote to the 3000bdx if you don’t get the khales.
A few reasons. Optically brilliant . I think I paid around $3600 for them in 2009 . Quality does not date . They have found me deer when I have seen nothing on the first few sweeps . I think what has changed in 13 years is technology . With the rangefinder in them the longest i ever got was around 1300yds in the right conditions. The size and weight of them- Big and bulky . I had some swaro's on order but did a deal the other day that included the Leica's . I cant be without bino's so had a nosey around at options. Years ago I had a pair of Kahles 10x42 which I traded on the new Leica's at the time. The glass was brilliant. Since swarovski brought out Kahles years ago and looking at bang for buck it was an easy decision . They showed up this morning after ordering on Monday. First impressions are I cant believe how light and small they are . Put a highlighter on my desk for reference.
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Was outside first thing this morning in the low light playing around . First impressions are just as good for a whole lot less.
@Nathan F where did you get them from? Cheers
@Shamus https://www.jacobsdigital.co.nz/coll...42630153830659
or ring mac at custom guns invercargill. They have them in stock same price .
The main reason I would still use the kestrel is that I can get the environmental data correct quicker. Mainly temperature by swinging the kestrel around to get my solution instead of waiting for the bino sensors to equalize from your chest or vehicle.
The kestrel is very easy to use once you become familiar to it.
I use mine almost daily so it's second nature.
They are an amazing tool and never really use my phone app anymore except when helping other people with ballistic problems.
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@Nathan F any update on these binos - how are you finding them?
Cheers
Am I correct in assuming it has no internal ballistic calculator?
If so why choose a bino with out when there are other brands at similar money that do.
It's just that been able to have your solution come up in the binos with out checking phone or dope chart would seem like common sense.
Glass would be the only consideration for me.
I started with the old model zeiss and they had amazing glass but useless ballistic engine that would only give solutions in inches or centimeters.
Some one at zeiss really fucked that one up.
I am on my 4th set of ranging equipment and all has had some sort of basic solution out to 700m which is close enough for most purposes .
Now I pair with a kestrel for way out which is incredibly accurate with the correct data!
Just asking
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Dont really know what you mean sorry Andy. Its got enhanced angle compensator ( kahles version of true ballistic range ) and temp and barometer . Not that I would pay much attention to them anyway. Im still a drop chart type of guy . Its all just more shit to go wrong . Added to the fact Im not shooting past 550yds ( which is generally bread and butter ) they are features wasted on me.