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Craftys state on their website (https://www.craftys.co.nz/product/ma...eam-torch-kit/) that their 2X differs from the one sold internationally. Can anyone confirm this? I did some research and could not find any info about that.
How is your experience with Maxtoch warranty?
Cheers, Levi
@mudgripz What are your thoughts...?Quote:
Originally Posted by livingwild
The only difference I could think of would be is one of them dedomed and the other not ?
Scrub that they are both dedomed. Looks like it has better contactors ( gold) vs the standard one and "lightened" not that they are that heavy anyway.
The present Maxtochs are not our designs, whether sourced here or overseas.
Brian (@gadgetman) and I designed and tuned our models specifically for hunting. Light weight, not overamped so they gave good runtimes, correct tint to prevent glare and cut through atmospheric crap, and good beam balance with some flood plus long range central hotspot which meant you could scan paddocks with them. And the bigger Maxis did not have overheating problems - did not stepdown after 3-6 minutes like all the lights on offer now. Latest lights on offer focus on putting highest output LEDs for max distance and you end up with high amped things that stepdown quickly and thus can't be used as spotlights, and they usually have v narrow beams. That's not what hunting needs. Anything with high lumen/distance output in a small reflector/head is going to be of very limited use.
Can't really advise you what to buy - except if we decide to build more. :) Had a chat about it the other day but it's unlikely with all the Covid freight/supply probs ex China today..
We still use our Maxis all the time and even after 5 years we enjoy how good they are. Going strong. Yours still going good Ruger? Remember ruger/stag that Brian still has some spares for the 2xs etc.
Pity the chinese did a dirty - by heavens we'd have had awesome lights these days if still designing and developing them...
That 2X is still at the bottom of that deep watery grave. Such is life . Still got some "old" lights. Thank god. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgripz
yeah mate mine are still going strong including the "first" double battery one ( 6n 2 something).
Thanks mate I will remember about the spares. Actually I think I might have a 2s that doesn't work. Must drag them all out and check them.
I'm still keen on a super duper night munting monster when resources and time allows you torch wizards to create :)
It pissed me off big time the way the bastards treated you guys. Seemed they waited for you to design and create a demand for them and then cut you out of the loop. I haven't spent any money with them since
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Originally Posted by mudgripz
We'll see... The problem is chinese manufacturer business ethic. They have none!
Yes both you boys, ruger and Te Rei were involved in field testing those lights - first and foremost they had to pass in the field - be effective for that particular task. Without any exaggeration the best hunter lights in the world at the time - and the old ones possibly still are. Alot of new makes and models but they do not meet specific hunter spec, and none have solved the heat/stepdown problem while meeting all hunter requirements.
Ruger - if you've got an old 2S - Brian because he may be able to upgrade it with new driver/ led etc. He's here shortly - I'll ask him.
Ruger just spoke to Brian - if you PM him he has an updated driver board and dedomed U4 LED which will really upgrade that early 2S of yours. This will make it hum....
Awesome thanks a bunch Muddy :)
While you're at it ask him about that old SN6X-2. Might poss be upgradeable too. Great old torch those..
Bit gutting really, we may have to start a partition forcing you and Brian back to redesigning another range of the same high standards.
@mudgripz I remeber you showing me some when I bought your JW15, nice units, and the wee rifle is still bang on, everytime.
Nice thought Stag - Brian and I talking about it today :)
Yes those polished, chopped little JWs are great - very sharp little hunters. Must have done 15-20 or so. Problem is every time we do one, some bugger comes in and buys it off me.......
Thanks Mudgripz, yeah mate I dragged all my torches out last night and the little SN6X-2 is still going :) I'm pretty sure it's dedomed since Manualman was kind enough to show me his dedoming skills a few years ago. that was the first torch that showed me just how ridiculous all the other ones were.
I fired up the 2s and it seems to be going, but can't remember if it was an overheating issue which would turn it off. I will give it a kicking and see if I can get it to fault again. No harm in upgrading the components though :)
It may have just been a contact issue, where sometimes the tail cap doesn't make good contact with the batteries etc...
Yep - just send it to Brian and let him know any probs. All fixable - and I'll be interested to see how it goes with the upgrade. :)
@gadgetman - have a good look at this thread..
Make sure the retaining ring for the switch in the tail cap is done up tight. The battery tube can also be backed out of the head a turn or two too.Quote:
Originally Posted by rugerman
I'm still running the original SN6 that @Bushrash modified for me way back. It is running the same internals as the current models.
Thanks a bunch Gadget :) I can't remember if the tailcap threads were part of the circuit or not. I seem to remember something about lubing it with either a conducting or non conducting grease ? lol very different things of course :D I will flick you a PM once I have got my light sabres in a row and sort the wheat from the chaff
Yeah Mauser, they sure kick arse. On the coastguard front I'm sure they would have a use for an uber mega super maybe 4 X as powerful as the 2X type torch. Something like that stirs my loins :) I believe that our torch gurus were thinking about bringing some bits in and doing some design, but as mentioned the shipping hassles etc... is making it a bit tricky for the while.
We're off shooting on saturday night. A north Canterbury farm we've had for near 15 years and where more than once we popped over 1000 bunnies in an evening. This is where/why the maxtoch hunters grew and developed. Typical kiwi attitude ... looked for the best hunting lights around, then "nah we can do better than that - we'll do it ourselves!! " :)
Must admit I do have a bit of an itch to build some more but finding an honest manufacturing company in china??? :cave:: That's an oxymoron really..
I have a mate who is into electronics and builds prototypes with his cnc machine, so after the design phase we could always knock up a few for a select group of night haters :)
maybe some sort of modular system so you could swap a larger battery tube, for the grunt you would need for a long range searchlight. And a twin battery tube for "normal" paddock sweeping and the like.
Got 1 of those. But the new led must be compatible to the rest of the internals? Old timers grew up with 303's . Some privileged hunters grew up at night with the CHCH Pixies toys. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgripz
Thanks for all your comments, these original 2X's it seems were real icons. Damn, I'm too late!
That is exactly the intention we have. Everything modular. Any head can match any battery tube, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by rugerman
Not icons. They were quality toys that annihilated heaps of deer. Trust me having also done the rounds with lugging 17amp gel batteries miles at night then the rounds with the light force.The LF could not cope with constant turning off and on and more so if you wanted to conserve your 17amp gel battery. But nothing compared with the lights from CHCH. Still chuckle with my mate as I once turned the light off as we had 5 big deer on the ground and had at least 5 more running towards us as they were totally confused about the light. The craze about thermal is overrated for value and return on money. A major retailer told my mate he thought the Pulsar including the top of the line stuff was rubbish quality wise. Never going to see that comment in their 4x a year brochure are you.Quote:
Originally Posted by livingwild
I reckon the new Maxtoch's aren't the same build quality either. Had a member on here send me his old 2X and the quality was excellent. I reviewed the L3K for Maxtoch and it was a disappointment, others also have noticed.
For the price Maxtoch should be providing 3-5 years warranty, keeping at 12 months kind of says something.