Are you confused yet:D:XD: you started out wanting a pack now where into the kitchen sink:D
Good on ya for posting though it's really good to see a good keen bugger ah:thumbsup:
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Are you confused yet:D:XD: you started out wanting a pack now where into the kitchen sink:D
Good on ya for posting though it's really good to see a good keen bugger ah:thumbsup:
mate, this place is a goldmine for a new hunter, so glad i stumbled onto this forum.
Been so many people who have steered me in the right direction, really appreciate it. information can seem contradicting at times but just gotta keep a clear head and listen carefully to each persons valuable opinion/experience :thumbsup:
I had a feeling this may turn into something bigger than "what backpack?" hahaha :D yea pretty keen man, as soon as my license comes in the mail i wanna be ready and have everything good to go when i go pick up that rifle! :cool:
@TheJanitar where are you based?
A hunt as you go setup is IMO a little more specialised and requires so.e good thought and gear to do effectively, especially in the bush. I personally find it very hard to bush stalk with a full load of gear in my 60l pack. Not impossible but I definitely prefer stalking with a low profile quiet pack. As most of your hunting option closer to auckland are bush I would look to set yourself up with that in mind first.
The most common setup would be to take a small pack or pikauri in your big pack and setup a Basecamp at a hut/biv or campsite and hunt from there. It's probably a good place to start, then you can add gear and go from there as you learn.
sleeping bags are the one real buy once cry once item for me. You never regret a good bag. I would try buy a 800 plus down nag from a reputable brand. And don't forget ground insulation the most expensive bag in the world won't insulate you from the ground. You must have a warm enough pad.
Quilts are like a sleeping bag with the bottom cut off. They are lighter, compress smaller and are cheaper than the similar spec bag (my -7deg quilt weighs 550 grams).
Downsides are they can be drafty and as you don't have a good you need to wear a beanie when it's cold. I like them, but it is really personal preference.
The tent will probably be fine in a bush setting. A tarp of the huntech bivy is a good option too.
okay awesome, only thing im worried about is someone stealing my 60l pack filled with gear if i leave it alone when i go out with the lighter pack!! esp in a hut environment. am i being paranoid?
Yep totally get you. ill definitely just bite the bullet and spend the extra cash on a sleeping bag. It makes complete sense to me now, it is probably the single most important thing to have a good sleep!
GF has a nemo 20r sleeping mat that shes giving to me so sorted for insulation and a soft surface to sleep on hopefully? :thumbsup:
As for the bivvy/tent, ive been doing some research, and this looks pretty good 2Man Bivvy will just need to get a ground tarp/sheet for it. thoughts?
again, really appreciate your detailed advice, helps me so much!
How much is that bivvy and how heavy? If it were me I'd hound @Spanners to send his one up for a look. It's light and from what he's said it's bullet proof, Huntech are not a specialist (tents).
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Macpac Cascade | Trade Me
Macpac Neve -5°c Down Sleeping Bag | Trade Me
These would be good. Nothing wrong with second hand if its good gear and has been looked after.
Be able to save a heap of coin that way.
$190 and it weighs about 1.4 kg. so maybe could get that and a light polytarp sort of ground sheet that shouldnt weigh much.
seems like a better idea to get that than get the naturehike chinese knock off tent for only $50 more.. but open to opinions :)
3F seem to be in the same category as naturehike, chinese brand modeled after some more expensive tents. its all good and well what he says about the tent, and ofcourse ill believe him. But i like to find some concrete info on something like that before spending over $200 on it.
All im able to find is some dodgy foreign language listings on aliexpress! and theyre all cheap as chips so ill just get one off there if i decide to get a 3f.
Thanks!
all on the watchlist! watching this one with interest Kathmandu Down Sleeping bag -9 | Trade Me its a womens but ill fit in there comfortably and i mean honestly, cant be that much of a difference. pretty light and good loft rating! so watching with interest, might be able to grab it for cheaper because it is a womens too :thumbsup: ive heard bad stories about kathmandu, but everyone seems to agree that one thing they can make is a sleeping bag. what do you think?
You seem like a good keen young fella... If you're headed down Rotorua way, give me a holler and I'll take you for a walk in Te Urewera... I've got a full spare set of gear you can use..... All you'll need is a bottle of port
That sleeping bag is temp LIMIT -9 which is about 0 deg confort at best.
650 loft also
I think you'll find better options available for the money
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ohh i see okay that makes sense. Man, these temp ratings are bloody confusing.. better idea to probably just work out how warm itll be through the ratio of total weight to the loft rating ae?
isnt 650 loft pretty decent? been looking at this https://www.bivouac.co.nz/gear/campi...-trek-tk2.html loft is the same as the kathmandu but the rating is -8 lower confort level, is that the same "limit" as the kathmandu im guessing? i mean realistically, it hardly ever goes below the 0 degree mark in the north island.
thanks for the advice man! (wish i had the dough for your express, looks like a bloody nice bag)
Ignore any lower limits etc.
have a read of the EN ratings.
A woman's rating is also for like a short 60kg which is quite different to 75 kg male.
Personally i wouldn't look at 650 loft - 800 all the way. Buy once cry once. Will get 20 yrs out of a quality bag
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Mate it often gets way below zero in the north island... I've had my socks freeze solid...inside the hut!Attachment 67989
Classic. I've seen my past poppas hot water bottle hit the floor of the hut frozen solid out of his sleeping bag. Mid Okahu @Biggun708
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When you rich and famous, you have 2 bags... One 500gm for summer and a 800 for winter...
Yea exactly! Have kind of gotten my head around the temperature measures. They are comfort, comfort limit, and then extreme limit (basically you're gonna die if it gets colder than this haha). Really interesting. Have also taken on board what @Spanners said about the EN ratings. Looking at a couple, this one sticks out to me Latitude 500 XP Down Sleeping Bag | Macpac NZ nz company, (easy returns or warranty claims), EN ratings that seem appropriate to nz climate (warm enough for winters ?), quite light at 1.1kg, 700+ loft. Steep price but I'll wait for sale as I'm not really in a rush, also may know a guy who can get it cheaper for me. Thanks guys!
If you're going to spend the money get a Epic
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I have that sleeping bag, they are hot in summer, but what I did was buy the escapade?? 150 that goes inside, have slept with these 2 together in -4 central north island in a tent with thermals on and roasty, and while tenting over summer with family slept in the 150. Perfect combo
Hamish
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The epic 400 (same as your express), is light as, which is awesome and has 800+ loft buuut, it's EN rating is 2,-4, - 21. And the latitude is 0, - 6, 23. So the latitude is slightly warmer but it's about 250g heavier which is where the tradeoff lies. Do you think your express (epic 400) is warm enough for 4 season nz hunting? :)
Low ball spanners and buy his. Will do the job 90% of the time and if you ever get cold just put your down vest/jacket etc on and you'll be fine.
@Spanners strikes me as the type of guy who wont take kindly to a lowball, might just have a go though.. :D
Right guys,
Found this bag on trademe.. https://touch.trademe.co.nz/listing/view/1314824877
En rating is comfort -3, lower comfort -9, extreme - 28.
Loft rating is 700+ and it has 650gm of fill. Weight is just over a kg (nice n light compared to other bags of the same fill) and it has a cool water resistant layer. have looked at 850+ loft bags with about 600gm of fill but can't pay $600+ for a sleeping bag sorry. Wish I had money for the exped 840+ bags on bivouac. But the ones I can afford have bad comfort ratings.. Thoughts? Thinking I'll offer him like 380. Seems fair to me.
https://www.bivouac.co.nz/exped-comf...eping-bag.html this is the bag i wish i had the money for.. Seems perfect. Maybe I should wait till they have a sale going mmm
Cheers
Hang out for a sale and keep saving. You'll end up with better for less.
I can sell you a moonraker next week if your interested.
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Keeping an eye on lots of websites just for this, fingers crossed! Alot of them have "sales" but it's like 10-20% off.. Not much at all. This one has the best sale I've seen https://www.outdooraction.co.nz/rab-ascent-700.html bag gets excellent reviews everywhere I've checked too. Are RAB products quality? But yeh it's 650 loft.. :oh noes:
I had the moonraker, it's good and warm.
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https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Regular...=kelty+sine+20
anyone tried this brand? read a couple of reviews and not a single negative. super light, 800+ down, Ultra dry down for humid areas, love the design. zippers look like very practical. EN -7 lower comfort rating too. so should be good for all kinds of north island weather.
can get it for under 400 on amazon landed so should get through customs without an issue too!!
heres a video of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEJgjd1dW0w looks very well thought out IMO
thoughts?
cheers