I got this MRE ages ago and just had it last night, really enjoyable but when I just looked online now they appeared to have gone plant based.
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I got this MRE ages ago and just had it last night, really enjoyable but when I just looked online now they appeared to have gone plant based.
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your right. lots of people rave about them but im not a huge fan
Nah someone managed to ruin it all, they have a whole sales pitch trying to justify and claim that vegan options are better in every way. What a load of BS you can tell there's an agenda behind it both in the way they worded the sales pitch and the claims made. "Were only doing this because vegan options are more nutritionally dense and better in every way" Completely ignoring the fact that any plant based protein you can find has nowhere near the bio availability of meat based protein. Doesn't help that pea protein tastes worse than dog water.
At least 50% of most vegan's diet has to be imported, cause we don't grow pulses or rice here or soy or quinoa.
They really need to look in the mirror. eyes on the front of the head: binocular vision for distance judging of prey. Teeth: omnivore.
Yeah I was gutted when they went vegan. Their Alaskan Salmon was pretty darn tasty and their lamb one was too. I liked how you needed a lot less water to rehydrate them vs other brands, so were good on a lightweight tops mission where water was scarce.
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well I went for a walk yesterday and my osm that expired in 2018 still tasted great :thumbsup:
Hmmm hamilton based maybe owned by one of those usa based churches that pay no company tax / dodgy charity imho
good grief!
under those enormous pivots down by the river??
There is a difference between plant based and vegan FYI
Unfortunately they are all plant based now, i bought up large when they announced it & have about 60 odd of the Ultra meals.
The back countries are tasty but give me a good dose of the exploding bum wees after a couple of days!
in my experience they have no flavour at all and cause bad diarrhea, I avoid at all costs.
Guessing a reasonable proportion of customers are hunters. Not too many vegetarian hunters out there. Not that we can't eat vegetarian food, just not what I want after a hard day in the bush.
Yeah its a bizarre decision, they have essentially just cut themselves out of a big part of the market?
Maybe they have picked up the woke tramper market so it might be a good move for them.
Anyone tried the "real meals" yet?
I used to think the Radix were the shiz, but the last thing in the world I want is to go vegetarian after a hard day's hunting (which I had to the very last time I used Radix having accidentially bought and packed one - so gutted). The plant-based move made me look at other brands. I wonder if Vegans consider the cost to wildlife of converting land to agriculture? If, and I mean, if, I need to carry freeze dried meals, I use Real Meals. They are a Nelson based company with NZ owners. The meals were designed by a local chef, and I think they actually use real meat, not that tofu based stuff in others. The Tom Kar Ghar requires a solid aluminium spoon to ensure you scrape it dry. Outstanding. But the caloric content does vary massively on Real Meals, so check this if that's important to you.
If your out for only a night or two, consider bringing your home made vacuum packed chipottle n cheese venison burgers (mix veni mince, Chipottle/Taco Mix pack, some cheese cubes, and salt (binding agent), set in the fridge and freezer to shape, then vacuum seal), a few slices of cheese, some bbq sauce, spinach and some garlic pita pockets. A $10 warehouse pan with the handle removed is sub 300g, and a piece of tin foil for a lid. Cut up small cubes of butter - that's all you need for "oil", wrap in baking paper. Another idea, make your own home made veni stew (add potato cubes to beef up carb content) and vacuum seal. End of the day, just heat it up in your Jetboil/MSR pot. So good with potatos and butter. Some jetboil and MSRs require a pot adaptor to be able to cook using a pan. But any screw in gas stove should do the trick with a small pan. Then you can just go to town and heat up your own home made meals. Pack a couple of buns to beef up your calories (again butter is good). I don't count the cost of carrying high quality food anymore. If your light on most of your gear, then why not.
If your going to a hut... home made panini, butter, ham, egg, mayo and spinach... wrapped in quality tin foil. Put on top of hut firebox to warm. Bring one for breakfast. Job done.
Real meals, formally ‘absolute wilderness’ are not bad. Some pretty tasty options.
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What has always annoyed me about the whole vegetarian/vegan crowd is their argument usually revolves around the idea that a human life is equal to that of an animal- OK fair enough if you're consistent, so by your logic is there also no difference between the life of a cow a rabbit and a monkey? No? So size/intelligence isn't the determining factor, were talking about all life being equal. So that extends to insects too right? Or where do you draw the line? Is it just things you find cute and cuddly that matter? They're both alive? What about a cockroach? They would happily kill that themselves I bet! Lets have a look in all these vegans/vegetarians houses and see who owns some fly spray lol. If you were to look purely at lives taken to sustain a human population, vegetarians are responsible for FAR more deaths than a conventional diet. If you think about it through that lens then wouldn't you want to feed the most people from the least number of lives taken?
In all honesty I don't care what they eat so long as it doesn't effect me, but they can piss off with their virtue signalling.
I'm good friends with the owner of Radix, he's based in Cambridge here.
There are multiple reasons they went away from meat. If you actually have a conversation with him it's rather eye opening.
There are a lot of absurd assumptions going around which are simply not true.
Radix primary focus is extremely high quality nutrition for athletes travelling world wide. Their target market is not hunting, however I'm regularly discussing options to suit the hunting community and there a few cool things in the pipeline.
I helped install their boiler and heating system - they are some clever people.
I'm still buying their stuff - it's calorie dense, and requires the least water of the options I've tried. I'd eat their breakfasts every day if I could afford to.
I’ve stopped buying their meals since the change, still eat the breakfasts as they are bloody good for a day on the hill and their protein powder is the best out there so I use that aswell
Mistakes were made
"Vegetarian"...... an old Indian word for lousy Hunter
@hotsoup keep the pressure on him, I’d really liked there chicken options!
I do like Outdoor Gourmet meals although they were a bit basic on flavour, Radix was tastier but I'm not satisfied with the vege option.
Back to Outdoor Gourmet I think.
It's pretty simple to dehydrate venison mince, a selection of vegetables and add your choice of flavour (the sachets in the Mi goreng noodles are pretty good). And it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying the packeted stuff. I keep the odd Backcountry as a backup but mostly take DIY dehy away with me now.
I've gone this way too. Venison mince is good because it is lean meat (so doesn't suffer going rancid). Do a bulk cook up and dehydrate over a couple of days, vacuum bag and chuck them in the freezer for extra peace of mind on longevity. Way way cheaper and like you say, flavoured to your own taste.
I quite like the Go Native MRE style meals. Although they are heavier, I like them because at least I know I am getting one hearty meal a day, which is something to look forward to if the day hasn't gone well for various reasons. Also if you get caught short without enough water to spare you can eat them cold.
All this is why Tabasco sauce is your friend. Fixes the blandest of meals