Rope 101

Ok guys, I did a lot of white water kayaking back in my youth.... (not long compared to some on here) but did a little climbing but not enough to know details.

Looking to by a length of rope. Main uses will be painting the rope and taking on the odd trip in alpine / steep country where it's just nice to have.

Realise that the thicker the rope the higher the breaking strain but also the heavier it gets. Imagine I would want something static not dynamic as if I come off the ladderon the roof I don't want it to stretch or I'll hit the deck.

Anyone on here carry rope in the hills? What do you use? Got a harness and a few carabiners lying around already and know my knots (enough to get by)

Being an arborist for 30 odd years I have had a bit to do with ropes.
Note: none of the ropes I used would I take with me hunting, reason to much weight 12mm was my climbing rope.
Alpine use 10 and 8mm to my mind still to heavy unless you are into rock climbing.
I have a 3mm braid that goes with me it can take 140kg and has been used at camp for tents, hammocks, and the fly of course.
Only once use when bluffed going back to camp it's small and is rapped on a small plastic fishing real.
Donaghys ropes will put you into what you may be after their ropes are all I used in arboriculture, cheaper than what's flogged of as climbing ropes for tree work.
Alpine climbing rope has a long stretch to take a long fall.
This is not required in tree work:) or I would say in the normal rock climbing situation.
Unless you want to be an Alpine climber.
KH

Another thing to add.... Have lengths of paranoid which is great for odd ropes round camp but find it really hard on the hands if you are gripping on for dear life or putting a loop round you / hand for pulling an animals up slopes or into a tree

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Originally Posted by 223nut

Another thing to add.... Have lengths of paranoid which is great for odd ropes round camp but find it really hard on the hands if you are gripping on for dear life or putting a loop round you / hand for pulling an animals up slopes or into a tree

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That's what your carabine is for or a prusik knot or loop :)
KH

If you have a local Bridon Cookes pop in there. Also your belt or pack waist belt may function as harness if suitably modified? Couple of ideas anyway

I would be very not keen at all on climbing with a static rope.

If you fall on a static rope all the force is transmitted directly to (a) the anchor and (b) you. This is a bad thing if there is any slack in the rope when you fall. The stretch of a dynamic rope (in general thinner rope = more stretch) soaks up that impact and spreads the force out so you don't get it all at once.

I have a 9.7 for rock climbing (not that I do much of that these days) and an 8mm for alpine use.

Those of you who have done working at height courses will know no stretch is bad bad bad for pretty much any fall situation.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Those of you who have done working at height courses will know no stretch is bad bad bad for pretty much any fall situation.

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Yes, looks very painful.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Those of you who have done working at height courses will know no stretch is bad bad bad for pretty much any fall situation.

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I know what you are saying VC, roofers and the like normally work off a shock cord setup.
The harness fall rating isn’t that great.
In Arboriculture you can’t work with stretch braid as it would be like working on a bungee cord.
It would give when not needed and away you go, also the fall rate of a tree harness used to be 6 feet.
I haven’t looked at the specs in a long time.
The thread is on what sort rope to take with him hunting? for just playing around I said there is no need for a stretch cord, unless you are doing some real Alpine work.

KH

The length of sash cord on my day pack goes everywhere but never seems to get used apart from occasionally hanging a fly.

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The length of sash cord on my day pack goes everywhere but never seems to get used apart from occasionally hanging a fly.

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Yes,some sort of cord is better than no cord, it's like some sort of knife is better than a fence staple:)
KH

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Those of you who have done working at height courses will know no stretch is bad bad bad for pretty much any fall situation.

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That's the gayest course I've ever done in the fire service.
We crossed a picnic table😁


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That's the gayest course I've ever done in the fire service.
We crossed a picnic table��


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Did you fall?....did you scream like a girl!!!!!:thumbsup:

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That's the gayest course I've ever done in the fire service.
We crossed a picnic table��


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A step ladder would still be needed for some of us

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That's the gayest course I've ever done in the fire service.
We crossed a picnic table��


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We went up to the old PowerStation up at McLarens falls and went off that :thumbsup: more a rope rescue course though. It really makes you trust in your mates when they are doing the knots and tape bends etc for you

I used to jump off that bridge. The dumb shit we do when we're young eh