Good camouflage, a duck caller, some decoys, sit and wait. Anything else? :)
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Good camouflage, a duck caller, some decoys, sit and wait. Anything else? :)
Gun and ammo could be useful.:)
Decoys, duck call (lots of practice as well), shotgun hopefully a few claybird shoots under your belt, pattern your gun to establish the spread of shot through your chosen choke, make sure you are well camouflaged and concealed. Avoid the temptation to move and watch the ducks, they have very good eyesight. Also when they are in close single quacks or a quick welcome call should be all that is required.
dont shoot anybody and for some it seems you combine drinking with duck shooting :wtfsmilie: dont do that or shoot with people who do
Give them 1/2 as much again lead as you you think you need, especially if you have not been practicing
Keep still and shut the fuck up while bird are circling
Careful where you shine your moon face. Unless you're black, then you shouldn't smile
gloves on hands,cover or paint your face.keep still.
Get your gun fitted! Go to a clay shoot get some practice in, they should know some one that will help with the fitting. http://www.nzclaytarget.org.nz/gunsh...NovDec2009.pdf
It's not like rifle shooting! Total different. Shotguns stocks have a cast (bend) for right and left hand shooters.
With out that cast you will miss more. So what the fitter dose is usually gets you to mount your unloaded gun while he looks directly at you. He can then see where your eyes line up down the barrel. He can the cast your gun for you. This he dose by heating up the wooden stock of your gun and bends it to fit you. Usually it's done with hot lights.
If you have a plastic shotgun then some come with shims that alter the stock.
I shot for many years with out knowing any of this:O_O: then one day some one said your problem is your guns not fitted to you.
Did some investigation found a fitter and went from shooting ok to hitting stuff today I'd never have gotten back then:thumbsup:
Then go out and practice so that you can build up what they call a sight picture library.
This is what your brain dose every time you hit a target, so next time you come across that same picture your subconscious takes over and judges speed distance hight. You then know when to pull the trigger.
Remember also that every one sees the lead of a bird differently.
Sounds a lot but it's fun to learn.
Hope this helps:)
dont lift your head after the first shot to admire or see why your missing keep stock cheeked.
dont buy the latest high capacity blaster or ultra high speed load in big shot sizes start reasonable and reliable and go on from there.[read remington 870 and game bore 2 3/4 in 3,s or 4s on a pond]
start with less choke than half with steel even skeet and work up if needed and patterning warrants it.
dont get to many heads up alert duck decoys it makes ducks suspicious.
get movement in your spread if the wind dont oblige.
when shooting ducks very few people miss by having to much lead.
If your using steel shot shoot straight at them forget about lead,steel is faster than leed so reduce lead if birds a close no lead .
Watch the ducks to see there response to your calling so you can sort out what to & not do .
Hail call & greeting call followed up with feed chuckle .
Sorry mate but that is not very good advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Steel may be faster at the muzzle but by the time it has gone 15m it slows down drastically as does lead.
Target aquisition, locktime, speed of target, gun swing and velocity of shot, all dictate an element of lead is required no matter how slow the target is going and no matter what style of shooting you employ. It is just simple physics.
Percieved lead may be less for some shooters.
I have not changed anything whether I shoot steel or lead shot to hit a flying target.
I remember some top shooters at Thames valley (a zone shoot) missing "rat" targets that are literally just rolling, by shooting behind them.
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Biggest tip I can give you is find a good spot to shoot, which has been a challenge for me. You just need to do your leg work if you don't have a pond. The rest you learn on the job like with anything else.
Having mates that do duck shooting and building new friendships is the way to go, you learn much from them and much of the fun in duck-shooting is the company you are with, the meat the icing on the cake. At least that's the way I see it.
Ah yes, and don't smile when they are coming towards you, unless you have camo mask on it. In which case take it off when you smile for the camera.
Go door knocking for spots - most farmers will grant access for duck-shooting in my experience. Remember safety comes first and have fun. Ducks are a bonus.
My two cents on shooting with steel - let the ducks get in close, front on or cupped side on before you shoot. Don't shoot at fast flying passing by birds and don't shoot at departing ducks. You'll lose/wound very few this way. Using steel these days we shoot just as many ducks, and use the same amount of ammo as we did when we used lead shot.
Ducks are further away and fly faster than you think. Head on, side on all good, allow for led, ducks flying away don't bother shooting at them. Lastly if your in a boat, wear a life jacket. Have fun and be safe,
I'll stick by what I said thanks R93 ,40+ years DTL ,Skeet & Sporting taught me about lead for those but steel changed the rules.
No more than 1/4 choke & shoot straight at them or half the lead you use with leed. If they too high for leed steel will knock them down.
You can defy physics😆
Look up 10m, 15m and 20m velocities of both lead and steel shot of equal charge and weight.
Then explain how you halve lead between the 2 please.
Bare in mind a good lead load of Gamebore claims say 1300 fps at the muzzle and some steel claims 1600fps.
300 fps even if maintained at say 25m is not enough to halve or have no lead.
300 fps difference at say 20 yrds equates to mere inches not feet or yards
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My very limited shotgun experience is that steel is more shitter than lead?
But as I said limited.
As already mentioned, cover the skin up. Your face will look like a beacon to the ducks when you look skyward, keep still until it's action stations. Good luck & have some safe fun :thumbsup:
Spot on further to this because the steel is lighter, it loses velocity faster. So at range it is on par with lead shot or even slower, therefore steel at range requires even more lead as the lead has more weight and more momentum.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Hes not taking the bait is he ? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Petros_mk
If you do find a pond:thumbsup: and a friendly farmer:thumbsup::thumbsup: then spend some time improving the habitat of the pond!
Fence it plant it build some duck nesting sites (I'll post this later) also when you build your Miamai plant some honeysuckle at the same time it makes for good natural camo.
Toitoi not so good sharp leaves:oh noes: but flaxs is:thumbsup: willow easy to plant.
Bottom line is if the farmer sees you putting in the effort and improving his land as well as maintaining it you will get a good rep.
Plus all round, might even lean toward some rabbeting and possum shooting.
Miamai build for cheap and easy use forklift pallets, a few on the floor dismantle a couple to fill in the holes chicken wire to stop them becoming slippery and then a few for walls.
Once you see where the ducks flight lines are coming from you can then move it or make a more permit structure.:thumbsup:
Loads of fun:thumbsup:
Good luck to you
LoL.... Busy with Gordon's wife, maybe shags now are allowed after all...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointer
Don't get hung up on being a numbers shooter . yes we strive to get that "Bag limit". Enjoy it for what it is , its a whole lot of things and not always numbers . I always remember the small quirky shoots , 3 green heads for 3 shots for a morning rocks my world,much more than 25 ducks for as many misses . Can be frustrating in the beginning but stick at it and you will enjoy the an opening day more than a kid on christmas day . Good luck munsey
Thats excellent advice :cool:
Funny fulla lol, wen r u going to get your uzbeki arse up north again. Still got room for u in the maimaiQuote:
Originally Posted by Petros_mk
No Gordon this year, hes moved back to Auckland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petros_mk
Well done on your boys first ducks UU!
Ended up with two greys and two parries. Was feeling a little sorry for myself, but think I did OK considering I haven't fired a shotgun for 4 years and have never been duck hunting before. Thanks for the advice.
If you can't call properly then don't. Follow ducks with your eyes only.