There is a variety of picnic trials on Sunday Sept 23rd in Tuakau. The trial starts at 9am and entries close at 10 AM on the day
There will be a Pointer Setter down the line trial, retriever trials and an HPR trial (combined down the line and novice water retrieve)
This is a very low key, relaxed event and a great opportunity to get the dogs out and about for a bit of off season work or just come out to BS with some friendly dog people.
If anyone wants the schedule just PM me your email address and I'll flick it through
good on you RCGSP its gotta start some where, have not got a dog to run but will mark the date and try come look ...
Looking forward to it. I'm fairly easy to identify as the one holding the lead attached to one of these two
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Note: the HPR trials are the work of Rob Gaastra, president of the ARGSPC. We had a talk a couple weekends ago at the braced trials about what needed to happen and I buggered off down south to go trialing and word came through that it was on so full credit goes to Rob for making things happen.
All things simply require something of a catalyst...good on you RCGSP and Mr Gaastra...
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Originally Posted by RCGSP
dont see you bitch anywea ryen, all your pics are of these 2
What's that got to do with this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by upnorth uplander
no need to get your back up Ryen, just asked wea she is
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Originally Posted by RCGSP
that depends on whether you run her or not
My back's not up, it's just a random comment for a thread about a trial.
She is not running. She grew up in a large breeding kennel and was never socialized until she got on a plane to come to NZ so being around groups of strangers stresses her out and I don't want to stress her while she's pregnant.
I have a lot more pictures of the boys because they live with me full time and do the majority of the hunting. Gipsi lives with my friend with my weim bitch I gave her.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...93782913_n.jpg
haha ha now that's the Pot calling the kettle black !Quote:
Originally Posted by upnorth uplander
So what's a down the line Trial consist of?
2 pigeons in separate traps and one dead bird at end of course -Good fun
not quite, usually a dead bird after each trap
Hoon, its a pigeon trial with one dog running at a time
No it goes live bird in trap, dead bird, live bird in trap
You can see the whole thing in order (just the bird work) here
Ch Jagdhunde Quintin QC (GSP) working a pigeon at a New Zealand field trial - YouTube
those are the same grounds where this trial is going to be
its been a long time for me ! I can remember the rules :omg:
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Originally Posted by RCGSP
so why has the last dead bird gone, there was always a dead bird after each trap to simulate the bird being shot
sensible to do that for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by upnorth uplander
There has only ever been one dead bird since I've started trialling.
It's not a very good simulation if the dog watches the bird fly away.
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Originally Posted by RCGSP
exactly why pigeon trials dont appeal to me, the 2 dead bird retrieve may have been changed by the pointer n setter owners as most of there dogs are forced trained and only capable of 1 retrieve..:)
I am of the mindset whilst things are not perfect for all people and dogs does that mean we should not still support events - I would rather run on a large open moor but that aint going to happen either as I am sure you would love to do Z -Ill work with what I have -not a lot of choice in the matter :thumbsup:
If anyone is thinking about entering. It might pay to give Gail a ring and enter by phone.
More often than not in the cover I hunt the dogs don't actually see the bird shot and drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by upnorth uplander
Being able to hunt up dead is an important skill.
I said it's not a very good simulation of a shot bird but it's still important that they be able to do it.
Everyone complains about the formats but no one does anything about it. Its better than nothing and it's nothing that should prevent a good dog from being successful. I don't mind, I run in what's offered.
i probably am going to trial my new pointer when i get 1, it still doesnt appeal to me but as you say, its all we have got other than live game trials. Patch is 8 so I wont bother with him.
My Setter is nearly nine Z -he is all I have so I have to do the best I can with what I have .May as well trial the lot and make a day of it
My Setter really hasnt had the work he needs to win but I can let that stop me either -or wont let !
Looks like a really solid entry for this trial. If anyone is interested and they haven't done so already, call Gail Blankley to enter.
There are a lot of entries so they are trying to make sure they have enough birds/time to get everything in. They may have to cap entries.
If you're interested in coming to watch, message me for directions. The SAGDC grounds are really good for watching the dogs run and there will be PS dogs, HPRs and retrievers running.
Yes, it is important...as they can lose valuable points for not doing the retrieve well...it does, however, crack me up how the judge is proffered the buckets of defrosted/defrosting pigeons to check over them prior to the judging...I cannot blame a dog for being hesitant in picking one of those birds up, especially those dogs who are hunted over for the REAL thing:)Quote:
Originally Posted by RCGSP
What are you getting ? Just being nosey!!Quote:
Originally Posted by upnorth uplander
great picnic trial today and good to both old and new faces.performance wise coulda done better but wasn't to letdown given my boys lack of pigeon work
a pointer bitchQuote:
Originally Posted by mikee
who from Z ?
I think you got a 3rd equalQuote:
Originally Posted by el borracho
WHAT-must be on the novice -Id be surprised but he did range well but the rats didn't bring his point out.
I got work to do ,lots of it
Yeah in the novice
any other results
I can't remember all of them exactly.
In the HPR, Kevin won open with Wilson (quin's uncle), I got second with Quin and Alan got 3rd with one of his two (can't remember which), in novice I think it was Rob with Nova that won and Brian with Ninja got second. I can't remember who got 3rd or how limit went.
In the PS I won open with Quin and Kevin got 2nd with with Wilson. I think Alan got third with the other one. Can't remember novice or limit.
It was a good day out and I bet the judges were tired by the end of the day as the courses were quite long and the walking tough. I hope we can do this more often with the SAGDC.
Steel (Vizsla) got a 3rd on the land section of the HPR trial. I thought Brian got a place in the HPR not the Novice because we both thought our dogs did better in their first run (HPR course)............ I'll check with him.
The HPR was split into open, limit and noviceQuote:
Originally Posted by HF1
