HEY MAN, YOU HAVE GOT IT ALL WRONG.... "hammer em" is something done while no one is watching, just like how sheep like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
The calves are probably just feeling a little dirty, but otherwise fine.
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HEY MAN, YOU HAVE GOT IT ALL WRONG.... "hammer em" is something done while no one is watching, just like how sheep like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
The calves are probably just feeling a little dirty, but otherwise fine.
explosives.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
CHeers, I figured that out when I read on through the thread... Im sure it will get sorted one way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Im off to shoot gun nails into high flying pieces of wood!
Iv been blasted at by a duck shooter.... he had a beer in his hand about ten minutes prior!
Anyway, i rekon there are pissed c@#ts everywhere. reckless or pissed etc same diff.
Iv never been duck shooting but will do one day. Just need to find a plucker/cook first.....
Cheers man.
Ryan, being a bit older than you and experiencing killing calves in my younger days as I’ve said on this thread. Crushing their skulls with a piece of pipe was a very quick and humane way to kill them. It’s just not PC today and time has moved on, it looks barbarian, which people won’t stand for. In its day it was very efficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
To tell the truth im not even sure how the way I make a living has been bought into this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
I didnt hear any shots before light this morning....in fact I was starting to wonder if I was going to hear any at all!
About half an hour after shootable light there were lots and lots of shots tho so I guess where I was at least people are playing by the rules.
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We have a few on the ground here in the wairarapa but slow going. More a evening pond where I amQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Probably because of a few examples you've witnessed, you've slandered the whole duck hunting community. Wounded ducks being left is unethical and to be avoided,but so is a lot of stuff I see in dairy....cows up to their guts in mud, lack of shelter belts....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
If you witnessed duck hunters obviously pissed and going out for a night shoot, you have a duty as a responsible firearms holder to report this illegal activity. By not reporting it, you must condone that behaviour.
This I'd the first opening in almost 30 yrs that I've missed... Fecken work and other shit...
Show me where I slandered the WHOLE duck shooting community Andrew? I think that a few blokes here got a bit offended where they possibly didn't need too, but then again maybe it hit close to home hence the childish comebacks and made up stories?Quote:
Originally Posted by oraki
Also, I have reported plenty of illegal activity Andrew :) I would have thought you of all people would realise shitting where you sleep is a dangerous practice. Slander dairy farmers as much as you want because at the end of the day you're just continuing some childish he says she says argument and I don't really give a shit because I know how I operate :)
Yip, fair enough, maybe not the whole group, but it's starts to wear abit thin after a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
And as for shitting in my nest, you will have to agree that around the countryside, not all places follow 'farming best practice' at all times.
Hot days and very little shade, snow on ground with little shelter, flooding.... Alot outside the control of farmer, but it's there and happens.
I'm pissed off with what you said, and did take it personally, but after a while the feathers lose some of their oil, and the shit does filter through.
All you hear and see is fecken dirty dairy, farmers, truck drivers,hunters.....
I can go to bed with a clear conscience, but it appears just about every fecker out there is either an armchair expert, after money or just there to stick the knife in.
What were you drinking?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
A case to bring back lead shot?Quote:
Originally Posted by oraki
I gotta say this is silly. 6:13, pitch black out and shot guns still blasting on the Kaipara river. You couldn't see a duck at the moment if it flew into your Maimai.
You really can. Shooting until 6.30 up there is easily possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Just got off the phone with Dad looks like they had a lovely day in the Waikato.
Got 16 so there happy. They where just sitting down for the annual roast dinner and after shoot celebration.
This my family have been doing for as long as I can remember.
My first experience into the world of hunting was standing on the side of the Piako river with Dad for a night shoot.
Very jealous hope you guys all had a good Dad too.
Good luck for tomorrow be safe. Oh and don’t forget when cleaning your guns for those with chokes give them a wipe of oil. :thumbsup:
Yes steel is crap, spent the morning chasing wounded ducks down the river some needed multiple shots. This evening took the 16g out 6 shots, 4 ducks no problems but it looks like the last time this year for sub gagues. Might have to get a muzzle loader.
I know what you're saying. There is dirty dairying and there are bad trigger pullers, but the vast majority of both groups are pretty damned good nowadays. And yes, the hunting community need to out the bad in them, just as the farming community do. Either out them, or even better help them to reform and be better. I'd like to see Fish & Game get into helping the few dairy places that are not up to scratch. It is a win/win for both parties rather that constantly at war with each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Good duck shooting weather out there now , pissing down hopefully it keeps up tomorrow
Another still clear night here. It will be another fine day with no wind tomorrow. 5 years in a row:pissed off:
depends on what you mean by upto scratch gadge animal welfare wise they,d be as welcome as a fart in a astronaut suitQuote:
I'd like to see Fish & Game get into helping the few dairy places that are not up to scratch. It is a win/win for both parties rather that constantly at war with each other.
a] i dont get on my knees for any cunt farmer or otherwise.
if you padlock a gate on a paper road id try to talk sence to you,id involve f&G if that didnt work id.....
i have a cordial relationship with a farmer who has had problems in the past
he now knows what he can and cant legaly do also who to call if he has trouble and what he now doesnt do is lump everyone in the same mob.
he also understands he has the right to close the gate to the road for any reason but not padlock it and he knows most of us who use it know to leave farmgates as we found them.
i had a great day yesterday on a public spot .
there only because i dont have a dog or id be on my river pond and yes no matter how good you are you,l wound birds and lose them [less ofcourse with a good dog]
i know dairy farming and ive seen the bad ones and the good ones but you,l notice i havent lumped ypu in a group.
A: Do you have trouble controlling your emotions?Quote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
B: not a paper road, access given (in the past) as a gesture of goodwill so have every right to deny that access
then you can do what you like and you have every right to control access.what you dont have is the right anymore than we do to lump everyone in the same boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
your joking right after your posts??Quote:
A: Do you have trouble controlling your emotions?
what i have trouble with is people buying land or controlling i.
t then thinking they have the right to cut off public access when they see a few quid to be made by doing so[ ie access only for certain trout or hunting guides]
@gsp follower I have said directly to probably 4 or 5 different guys now in this post if you can show me where I threw you all in the same boat then I apologise unreservedly, it seems like you are all willing to throw yourself into that boat without much encouragement. Right early on in this thread there was actually some constructive conversation where a few said that yes those comments ring true but we are not all like that, this is how we do things, etc etc, then the likes of Woody and Boaraxa and yourself had to start beating your chests like I had made some kind on personal attack on you.
Come on guy deep breaths needed, I had enough "handbags at dawn" with my last employer
fair enough mikee
all i,l say is read your first two posts and leave it at that.
and that i didnt or wouldnt call you a dirty or cruel cockie untill i knew it for a fact
anyway end of.
Yet you use these words mate, you can not expect any farmer to not take offence when your opening line is this...Quote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
"a] i dont get on my knees for any cunt farmer or otherwise.
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Originally Posted by JoshC
Hope you had a good day out @JoshC
Your list of 3 mite be a bit on the conservative side ! not that I felt personally attacked more that you jumped on everyones fun on the eve of the season which is pretty ratshit as there is some real keen beans on here , so did anyone dump more birds on your property this weekend ? any duck shooters wounded ? iv read the stuff web no mentions of bad behaviour so far .Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
I personally felt Ryan's comments took the gloss off an awesome traditional weekend for me personally. I don't want to hear that crap on the evening of duckshooting, cant sleep the night before duckshooting at the best of times.
Say what you want about duckshooting but when grown men cant sleep due to excitement well that says something.
We had a bloody good weekend, just came in from the night shoot
"took the gloss off?" It's a comment on the internet you don't need to agree with or take personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
Lighten up bro - glad you had a bloody good weekend.
Well mine was poor. My new location did not work with the weather, the malards took off first thing and then there were only Parries. I cant be bothered shooting something that I wont eat so left them alone.
But there you have it, I got out of the house and gave it a go. Still better tan not giving it a go.
I had a great day
Only personally shot 1/2 a dozen as I was at the bottom end of the new pond and all my shots were ducks hightailing it out of there.
Every duck shot landed in thigh high tussock so the dog got a good workout including a runner parry that ended up more than 50 yrds away from where she went down
that Bird would never have be retrieved without a dog so I highly recommend duck hunters to take the time out and work with your dog.
Will get my dachshund out this season. I reckon he will go alright, has a awesome nose on him just no good in long grass. Should be entertaining enough anyway
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Good attitude you guys have towards those you then get on your knees for to get access. Our new place has one of the major access points into the upper rakaia on it, cant wait to put a padlock on the gate to keep the fuckwits out
I was working so missed out on shooting. Talking to the boys and they had an average shoot, 18 birds for the weekend. Talking to others that I shoot with and they had similar results. Not rough enough to keep them flying.
Pleasing to see no one in CSI got hurt, or prosecuted.
On another note..... I will have to concede a point to Mr Songhurst. While doing a pickup I noticed ducks circling a pond. Then the shots went of, and the birds flew away. I went over to the shooters and suggested maybe letting the ducks get another 100m closer. To which I was told to have sex with myself.
And today I was driving up a track and noticed a pile of unprocessed ducks in the pit. Talking to the worker while pumping and casually asked how the shooting went. Awesome, but got to pissed to shoot at nite. Asked about shooting through the season and got told opening weekend only. I said an expensive licence for 2 days shooting. Nah mate no licences,ha ha.
Told him expect a visit next year. And got told to 'go away'
So all in all bloody diappointed, but It is the first time I've come across it. All my colleagues take it seriously, although one did admit to having his coffee straight because he forgot the milk
exactly oraki not duck hunters but opening weekend idiots like the roar got a licence and no sence.
but just like animal wounding bigger game hunters what can you do but report them show your distain and try and set a better example.
we had the usual 6.30 idiots to even tho its a 6.45 kick off.
nothing more disheartening than having ducks swimming in your dekes then clowns go early.
To me it is mutual benefit to help out both parties. We both have a vested interest so why not pitch in? It is much better than going head to head all the time which just puts up barriers. In all honesty I reckon there is way too much grandstanding with a lot of organisations. The biggest difficulty should be getting around the health and safety rules. It's not grovelling or stooping, it is putting something into our sport and our wider communities. Would also show hunters in a good light rather than just the bad press when something goes wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
I love my duck hunting, which is so much more than just shooting ducks. My son and the grand daughters have an awesome time in the mai mai, with big cooked breakfasts, I video heaps of action, we dress out all our birds, use a dog etc.
Pre-season is spent repainting decoys, cleaning up the mai mai and surrounds. Great fun!
I can totally understand Ryan's disgust at the actions of some low lifes who just kill ducks to brag, and then chuck the birds out. Shoot bloody clay birds if you want to just shoot shit. As for drinking and shooting - I do not see that up this way, but I guess some people still drink and drive, and possibly the same ones will drink and shoot. Of the duck hunters I know, all seem to be passionate about their hunting, and many put so much more back in the form of wetland development/enhancement.
I am saddened to see that Ryan has been exposed to the crap behaviour of some shooters, and while I find his language confrontational, his reasons are understandable. Most of us duck hunters are passionate about our sport, and follow the written ( and unwritten) rules absolutely.
On ya Lentil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lentil