Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Alpine Terminator


User Tag List

Like Tree5456Likes

Thread: Catch Any Trout Today?

  1. #1996
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    BOP
    Posts
    20,834
    Rotoiti tonight, blowing a gale and then a bloody thunderstorm and pissing rain, no fish, home by 7:30
    mrs dundee likes this.
    Boom, cough,cough,cough

  2. #1997
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    435
    Caught and released yesterday.
    Name:  20160316_132753 - Copy.jpg
Views: 310
Size:  970.0 KB

    What do you think caused the damage to the tail?

    60cm in length and only 2lb+. Doesn't look as though it will last much longer.....

  3. #1998
    Lovin Facebook for hunters kiwijames's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    7,107
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauli View Post
    Caught and released yesterday.
    Attachment 47081

    What do you think caused the damage to the tail?

    60cm in length and only 2lb+. Doesn't look as though it will last much longer.....
    Unsure about the tail but that release technique has more than certainly sealed its fate.
    The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can do to change; until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds

  4. #1999
    Member Sean's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Out of Dannevirke
    Posts
    247
    How do you know?
    Are you a genius or something?
    mrs dundee and bomber like this.

  5. #2000
    Member BRADS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Central Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    9,271
    Yeah James are you?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    kiwijames and Gibo like this.

  6. #2001
    Lovin Facebook for hunters kiwijames's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    7,107
    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    How do you know?
    Are you a genius or something?
    A couple of fairly basic biological facts make it a rather simple conclusion @Sean.
    I'm no genius but I have learnt that it is often good practice to take onboard the learnings of others, especially those invested in the quality and perceived ethics of NZ fishing. You will struggle to find any NZPGA professional who would endorse most of the release techniques pictured in this thread and many would offer far less polite instruction on the how to's of catch and release after repeated technique suggestions.
    I cringe every time I see a fish sitting on the bank only to be released with a less than best chance possibility of survival. It's a respect thing I suppose.
    Maca49 and Sean like this.
    The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can do to change; until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds

  7. #2002
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    435
    There's one particular stretch on a hidden away stream that I've caught the same fish at least twice - and that's after taking a photo, reviving it and letting it go!

    NZPGA professionals have a vested interest in 'protecting' their beats - I don't.

    Anyway, back to the original question. Flood damage, a (very) large eel bite?
    Dundee, Sean and bomber like this.

  8. #2003
    Member Dundee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Way East of D'Vagas
    Posts
    17,445
    @Pauli I have seen eels attack trout before,or another theory that jack you caught looks to be "spent" maybe a bigger jack gave him a hiding.
    bomber likes this.
    "Thats not a knife, this is a knife"
    Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
    CFD

    tps://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180505T00&p0=264&msg=Dundees+Countdo wn+to+Gamebird+Season+2018&font=cursive

  9. #2004
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    BOP
    Posts
    20,834
    Crucial when jigging to let the fish come up slowly, otherwise the pressure difference kills them, buggers there ballast? I use very light gear jigging. Nothing worse than a belly up release fish floating away from the boat
    Boom, cough,cough,cough

  10. #2005
    Lovin Facebook for hunters kiwijames's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    7,107
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauli View Post
    There's one particular stretch on a hidden away stream that I've caught the same fish at least twice - and that's after taking a photo, reviving it and letting it go!

    NZPGA professionals have a vested interest in 'protecting' their beats - I don't.

    Anyway, back to the original question. Flood damage, a (very) large eel bite?
    OK then, more bluntly, thats a shit way to release a trout. They're not designed to be out of the water, let alone left on a shingle bank.
    There is screeds of information available on how to release fish of all types with proven successful techniques. Got visit your local angers association (as they won't try and steel all your spots) or Google "how to release trout".
    You'd be surprised that you will not find anything there that suggests leaving a fish on a bank is anything other than detrimental to its successful release. It really takes very little additional effort to do a much better job.
    Name:  trout.jpg
Views: 215
Size:  157.5 KB
    As for the marks the photo isn't that great. Eels will certainly have a go at a trout but leave a fairly distinctive "v" shape (see above photo between dorsal and adipose). That more looks like an abrasion and as you noted the fish is not in good nick so could even be disease. Ive been advised that eels will latch onto a hens vent when spawning and literally suck out the eggs.
    Last edited by kiwijames; 17-03-2016 at 09:27 PM.
    The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can do to change; until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds

  11. #2006
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    BOP
    Posts
    20,834
    Shit Kiwi that's enough to stop one swimming in rivers!
    Boom, cough,cough,cough

  12. #2007
    Bomber bomber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Dannevirke
    Posts
    695
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauli View Post
    There's one particular stretch on a hidden away stream that I've caught the same fish at least twice - and that's after taking a photo, reviving it and letting it go!

    NZPGA professionals have a vested interest in 'protecting' their beats - I don't.

    Anyway, back to the original question. Flood damage, a (very) large eel bite?
    I too have caught the same fish twice. The ones that amaze me a the sml ones that attack a lure not much smaller than them and engulf it, I'm sure we all try to release as humanly and quickly as possible, most I see do swim off.

    Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
    Dundee likes this.

  13. #2008
    Sending it Gibo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    The Hill
    Posts
    23,208
    Quote Originally Posted by Maca49 View Post
    Shit Kiwi that's enough to stop one swimming in rivers!
    Dont want your vent sucked?
    bomber likes this.

  14. #2009
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Bell Block NZ/Northern Alberta Canada
    Posts
    1,093
    yea that brown is skinny,
    I think browns spawn in the autumn, and rainbow's in the spring, might explain its condition, its also been a hot summer,

  15. #2010
    OPCz Rushy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Nor West of Auckland on the true right of the Kaipara River
    Posts
    33,650
    Quote Originally Posted by Gibo View Post
    Dont want your vent sucked?
    Nah he does Gibo but just not by an eel. I hear tell he favours Bobby calves.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
    Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

 

 

Tags for this Thread

View Tag Cloud

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!