Fishing, dont you just hate people invading your space?

Went for a early morning shark fish of the beach today.
Arrived at the local beach at 330am and had the whole beach to myself. Rigged up a big bait, chucked it out and sat back waiting for some action.

Anyway, 10 mins later a couple of people came down. First i thought they were mates of mine as they headed staight for me as i was expecting one or two.
But they werent, they were a couple of asians coming down to fish and they started to set up 3m from me, WTF.

Now, dont have anything against Asians but when i go for a fish i like the piece and quiet of it and considering the whole beach is free why the fuck are they fishing in my space.
Frankly it pissed me off, so i had a word to them before they got totally set up.
Told them i was fishing for big sharks, no sinker, my line going drift a little and if i hook up its going to run up or down the beach and if i lose it because it tangles
with your lines i will be right pissed off so i basicly told them to fuck off down the beach abit .

Not sure if they speak english but they got the point and moved.
A whole 30yards!. Ok, i let it be and sat back and one mate came down and he set up 80 yards further down the beach.
Anyway, in a very short time more asians turned up, and somehow i was in the spot they wanted to fish as they all started to set up next to me again.

11 turned up in totally, fishing side by side, the whole beach free but no, had guys not only next to me but the last one in the line was fishing in front where
i was sitting and if he hung his rod to far back the sinker was going to hit me.

Now i was getting quite fucked of now, it didnt matter if there was 11 of them, if that sinker touches me or my gear i was going yank it and that rod clean out of his hand
and cut his line and some words were going to be said!!

Before things got heated, i decided from advice from my mate just come and fish the other side of him and have some distance from these dickheads so i did.

anyway, no big sharks were about and as the light came the asians started to catch little tingy snapper and keep everything they were catching.
We soon had enough of this shit and my mate rang who ever deals in undersize fish and they said they sent someone down.

We waited awhile, didnt see anybody arrive from Maf or whoever and as no action we left .

Ppeople can fish where they like i suppose, but when the wholes beach free,
the channel is basicly the same for quite a distance etc its just not right fishing right next to someone else where tangles etc will likely occur and theres plenty of room.
It totally annoyed me and then they go about keeping undersize fish....all i can say they better not turn up next time and put the same shit !

Get signs made up that says "Grouchy Prick" in Asian speak and put one each side of your fishing possie.

Get a sign saying Fisheries Officer and a tee shirt

I have a DSLR camera and once when I was taking pictures, of some fishermen on a beach, they all packed up and ran away.

That sure is annoying. Hope the fisheries people eventually caught up with them.

Whenever I see them fishing on a wharf I go and look in their bucket for undersized fish. If there are any I tell them "too small you have to put them back". Me and my brother were fishing at Murawai a while back and we made a family of them throw back a whole sack of small mussels. They hummed and hared for a while before tipping them back in the water. It was only later I realized there was no size limit for mussels :). Hopefully they went away and looked up the regs. Would have been 30mm long, Didn't seem right to me :D

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Originally Posted by rugerman

Whenever I see them fishing on a wharf I go and look in their bucket for undersized fish. If there are any I tell them "too small you have to put them back". Me and my brother were fishing at Murawai a while back and we made a family of them throw back a whole sack of small mussels. They hummed and hared for a while before tipping them back in the water. It was only later I realized there was no size limit for mussels :). Hopefully they went away and looked up the regs. Would have been 30mm long, Didn't seem right to me :D

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That does seem a little like 'asian bashing'...keep in mind kung fu originated in that part of the world and I hope you can swim.

lol Asian bashing ya reckon. Thanks for the warning about getting the bash.
people who come from a culture where there is no fishing regulations at all, and you can strip the coastline clean, are either not aware of the catch limits here, or choose to ignore them.
Be like water

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Originally Posted by DavidGunn

That does seem a little like 'asian bashing'...keep in mind kung fu originated in that part of the world and I hope you can swim.

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@deer243 You were fishing in Nelson?
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That would have pissed me off too. Did mpi officers turn up?

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Originally Posted by Steve123

@deer243 You were fishing in Nelson?
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@Steve123 yeah.I mean it wasnt like they just fished by me. It was like 3m from me, shoulder to shoulder while the whole beach was free.
They when they all moved in , they bascily forced me to move
as i had guys set up straight in front of me right where i was sitting bascily casting and the sinker and hooks a reasonable chance they hit me in the head while they were doing it tangling up my line on the cast

It was clear looking back on it they just wanted to take over that spot and forced me to move. (slight cove to right that was quite shallow so had to move 80 yards)
No way i wasnt going to get my bait not tangled with there lines....so it was either have some words or leave.
So i moved and kept the peace and said nothing but i was there first and its just rude. Doesnt matter who they were but shouldnt be doing that..

Then they go about keeping every undersize fish...mate and i couldnt be bother getting into any arguements as we just here to have a fish so didnt go over and say they too small and need to go back

But my mate after about the 7th fish rang Maf or whoever and they said they sent someone down but didnt see that happen.
We were there about a hour after the phone call before we left.
Point is people should have some respect for others, and considering everything i really didnt say anything apart from the first 2 and it was clear we all end up in a big tangle mess with our lines
if they fished where they were going to.
Put it this way, if i had 2 rods my second one wouldnt be as close to my first one what they were doing.
So it became clear now that they for what ever reason they were forcing me to move as for whatever reason they thougfht that was the spot.
It was quite ridulous, just a pity about the under size fish.....they know the rules but i suppose its early AM in the morning and think whose going to dob them in.

I be ringing Maf myself next time if i see them doing this again.

two things will fix that quick smart...braid line will cut nylon...so rig up heavy braid.....and some road kill possums/rabbits the bloodier the better, chuck them out under balloons,when they start to dissapear the sharks have arrived.
Ive seen the undersized fish thing too....it is a culture thing and needs to be stamped out.MAF need good kick up arse for not turning up...keep ringing every ten minutes if it happens again....
but a braid line and running fish will sort out the close to you guys pretty darn quickly ,or so Ive been told.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

two things will fix that quick smart...braid line will cut nylon...so rig up heavy braid.....and some road kill possums/rabbits the bloodier the better, chuck them out under balloons,when they start to dissapear the sharks have arrived.
Ive seen the undersized fish thing too....it is a culture thing and needs to be stamped out.MAF need good kick up arse for not turning up...keep ringing every ten minutes if it happens again....
but a braid line and running fish will sort out the close to you guys pretty darn quickly ,or so Ive been told.

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In the handle of the old survival knives there used to be a wire for cutting wood for a fire, one of those tied above the sinker saves tangled lines...so I have been told.

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Originally Posted by DavidGunn

Get signs made up that says "Grouchy Prick" in Asian speak and put one each side of your fishing possie.

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You meant one that says "ignorant fucksticks stand clear" and another that says "woke fucksticks will be drowned in the surf"

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Originally Posted by rugerman

lol Asian bashing ya reckon. Thanks for the warning about getting the bash.
people who come from a culture where there is no fishing regulations at all, and you can strip the coastline clean, are either not aware of the catch limits here, or choose to ignore them.
Be like water

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Very few Chinese are actually "kung fu" people and those that are are, are very seldom masters of the silly carry on you see on tv.

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Originally Posted by deer243

@Steve123 yeah.I mean it wasnt like they just fished by me. It was like 3m from me, shoulder to shoulder while the whole beach was free.
They when they all moved in , they bascily forced me to move
as i had guys set up straight in front of me right where i was sitting bascily casting and the sinker and hooks a reasonable chance they hit me in the head while they were doing it tangling up my line on the cast

It was clear looking back on it they just wanted to take over that spot and forced me to move. (slight cove to right that was quite shallow so had to move 80 yards)
No way i wasnt going to get my bait not tangled with there lines....so it was either have some words or leave.
So i moved and kept the peace and said nothing but i was there first and its just rude. Doesnt matter who they were but shouldnt be doing that..

Then they go about keeping every undersize fish...mate and i couldnt be bother getting into any arguements as we just here to have a fish so didnt go over and say they too small and need to go back

But my mate after about the 7th fish rang Maf or whoever and they said they sent someone down but didnt see that happen.
We were there about a hour after the phone call before we left.
Point is people should have some respect for others, and considering everything i really didnt say anything apart from the first 2 and it was clear we all end up in a big tangle mess with our lines
if they fished where they were going to.
Put it this way, if i had 2 rods my second one wouldnt be as close to my first one what they were doing.
So it became clear now that they for what ever reason they were forcing me to move as for whatever reason they thougfht that was the spot.
It was quite ridulous, just a pity about the under size fish.....they know the rules but i suppose its early AM in the morning and think whose going to dob them in.

I be ringing Maf myself next time if i see them doing this again.

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Take your dog with you.
Was it Tahunanui beach?
Nelson must have changed since the early nineties, was pretty much a monoculture back then.

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Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Very few Chinese are actually "kung fu" people and those that are are, are very seldom masters of the silly carry on you see on tv.

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All good til someone shows you tai chi moves sped up.

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Its a culture thing I'm afraid.....and its not just Asians ,Europeans do it too...you can have camp set up somewhere and they will turn up and set up a tent dam near touching yours when they could be 20m away.
People from high population density places just dont have the same personal space that your average Kiwi does, hence why flues spread like wildfire.

@deer243 if it happens again. Back up then go back and take photos of the lot! Dont forget there number plates!
Then send it on to MAF!
Yep just rude. Have had it a few times while out on the boat. Some twat comes and drops anchor right next to you. Or even worse goes roaring on past with a wave:pissed off:

Someone told me a story of some ignorant shits wharf fishing... bucket full of undersize fish.
A rod went swimming and the bucket got booted off the wharf, the 'shits' got told " you ruin your homeland, dont come here and do the same to ours"

I have heard a similar story regarding littering pricks.
Not saying kiwis are all perfect, but some 'fresh off the boat' migrants do treat our country like their thrashed out homeland.
If the politicians want to impress me for a change, they need to put the fear of god into anyone thinking of disrespecting our homeland.
Any new arrivals in NZ should be given short, sharp warning in their native tongue that they will be deported immediately with no appeal if proven to be a dirty bastard.
As for kiwis doing the same, mandatory one week inside for even the smallest littering offence.

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Originally Posted by Steve123

All good til someone shows you tai chi moves sped up.

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Some people play heavy metal backward to hear the satanic messages too.......

Taupo rivers are a classic for this sort of behaviour. You don't even need to have touched a fish, but if you're in a pool and there's empty water above and below, then 9 times out of 10 somebody coming along will start fishing right in behind you. Can never figure out if it's a social thing, or lack of confidence in finding their own spot. Fair enough if there's people fishing all along the river, but when it's quiet then why not go and enjoy your own bit of water for a bit? I don't get out there much these days. So last time this happened I actually stood my ground and things were getting a bit heated. I had literally 1 hour of fishing time to myself. Got lucky and found a spot with a few fish at the head of a pool, then a couple of guys turn up and one of them is literally casting over my line with his spey rod. After 5 minutes he asks if I'm going to move and let him have a go at the head of the pool. There was empty water every where. And when they'd turned up and I asked them how his fishing was going had told me how great a day they'd had the day before. Nah sorry mate, I've only got about 45min before I have to go, I'm just going to keep fishing here for a bit. Proceeds to instruct me on river fishing etiquette. I told him if the roles were reversed we wouldn't be having this conversation because if I'd turned up and seen him and his mate set up fishing a pool, I'd just keep walking down or up the track to another pool.

Think it’s a Bob Jones thing:yuush::XD:

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Originally Posted by Sideshow

Think it’s a Bob Jones thing:yuush::XD:

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Yeah, he didn't seem to be keen on folk dropping in while he was fishing.

Same thing used to happen at the Rakaia river mouth years ago - probably still does today.
Family had a batch there so every weekend during the season we'd be there and I'm talking back when the limit bag for salmon was 6. It wasn't uncommon to actually catch 6 in a day when they were running.
Also wasn't uncommon to hook a fish and make your way round into the surf, or upstream out of the way of everyone else if thats where the fish wanted to go, and either land said fish or lose it. Then return to your original spot in the line only to find someone else had decided that it was now there spot.
My old man was a pretty aggressive sort, and pretty protective of his boy. Needless to say those intruders left as quick as they'd arrived, before they went for a swim.
He seemed to be able to convey his message using only short words
:pissed off::fighting:

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Originally Posted by 40mm

Someone told me a story of some ignorant shits wharf fishing... bucket full of undersize fish.
A rod went swimming and the bucket got booted off the wharf, the 'shits' got told " you ruin your homeland, dont come here and do the same to ours"

I have heard a similar story regarding littering pricks.
Not saying kiwis are all perfect, but some 'fresh off the boat' migrants do treat our country like their thrashed out homeland.
If the politicians want to impress me for a change, they need to put the fear of god into anyone thinking of disrespecting our homeland.
Any new arrivals in NZ should be given short, sharp warning in their native tongue that they will be deported immediately with no appeal if proven to be a dirty bastard.
As for kiwis doing the same, mandatory one week inside for even the smallest littering offence.

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Agreed@40mm.As a regular motorist doing the Nth Canty to Sth Westland haul i.e. the loopy tourist route a blind man couldn't help but see the huge reduction in road side litter from our foreign visitors who treat S.H.7 & 6 as a 500km long mobile rubbish dump.And of course not to mention the lack road accidents from their crazy driving as well.Covid = no tourist = Godzone for the better

went to the Mt Maunganui yesterday, dont go often and I had driven towards Papamoa until there were plenty of parking. Parked up and took the pup for a walk, good training session. Walked for around 3-1/2 hours plenty of space. Down that way is a surf lifesavers pad and they had swimming flags out. plenty of folks in that area. 20 metres past the flags was a sign for a rip and 2 Asians fishing. Ks and ks of beach available and the pricks are fishing just out of the swimming flags where kids are playing in the surf