Bought a single shot rifle from Guncity yesterday and when I looked at the receight it had what I had bought and my name and address. Is this happening across the country? I destroyed it by burning it.
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Bought a single shot rifle from Guncity yesterday and when I looked at the receight it had what I had bought and my name and address. Is this happening across the country? I destroyed it by burning it.
hmmmmm that IS a real can of worms if it got into wrong hands.... @Coop care to comment???
Did you provide those details to GC, or just present FAL as required?Quote:
Originally Posted by garyp
If it was the latter, then yes, this is potentially a biggy imho.
H&F have been recording names and addresses in a log book for a long time.
....very different prospect to printing those details on a receipt.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Thus building a record of what firearms are at which address....IE an informal registration. I would politely decline to give them such info unless legally required.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Have you raised your concerns or discussed this in any way with anyone at Guncity ?
I get the feeling there’s a few wearers of tin-foil hats on this forum. All sorts of businesses record these details these days.
A record such as this has been law for many many years now. All shops must record what they sell and who to. (Sales register) It was retained by the shop/business and was checked by Police every time the dealer license was renewed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
However putting those details onto the receipt could be an issue of the receipt is discarded by accident. In saying that, if you have ever purchased a rifle in the last 20 years or more ,these details would have been required...
.No but this is on a printed receight
Ok, not sure what your issue is. I mean I understand your concern about unwittingly discarding it but......who carelessly discards a reciept that proves how much you paid for a rifle ? Shit even my missus doesn't get to see those :yaeh am not durnk:Quote:
Originally Posted by garyp
Seriously though if your aware of it, it's not an issue.
My awnser about tin foil hat wearers and the number of them on the forum.
No shit Sherlock!
There's heaps of the buggers!
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....printing your address on a receipt is redundant. Not looking to promote any conspiracy, poke fun, insult anyone, slander anything (or organization), not looking to enrich someone selling tinfoil,....not looking to spark any debate with anyone's other half..... (have I missed anything - (?))Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
You know your address, the store knows your address, the Police know your address..... no one needs to print it on an invoice; at least I would have thought.
We've had to record customer details for firearms for 30 years or so... This isn't a new thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
We legally have to record customer details both on paper and electronically. There isn't a way I can fudge the receipt to not show your details.
Only copy of purchases are on my bank statements,receipts go in the pot belly stove.No early morning visitors get to see them.
Ammo too by the way since last year. Though only electronically. So don't be surprised when we ask for your details for ammo.
My advice. If you don't need a paper receipt then request you don't get one. Simple. If you do need a paper receipt then don't lose it.
So the issue is the purchaser may lose the receipt and someone else might find it? Really? Take some responsibility. Besides, don't you keep your receipts for warranty purposes?
I only ever purchased 2 rifles from a store, and I am certain (despite my ageing memory) that I was not asked for an address by the store.
2005 version of the 1992 Arms act
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regu...is%20delivered
choked on my coffee at that one :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
For the clarity of any future google searches (honey I love you and they weren't that expensive :D )Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffer
thankyou for clarification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop
For my 1st tikka purchase my wife gave me her credit card to buy.So the cost didnt bother me,but she never did that again.lols
No worries. Might have been 20 years, long before I was in the business. Point stands, been that way a hell of a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Not saying you are wrong, but a tinfoil hat is safer to wear than a blindfold.Quote:
Originally Posted by woods223
Or blinkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Growlybear
@Coop, is the address and details on the receipt transactional or do you save them off into a database somewhere?
Details are stored on the company system under your "account".
When a firearm is purchased , or any other items, they too go on your account records.
Gun purchases are also recorded on a paper sheet and collected by police monthly.
Customer details must be recorded or you cannot be sold the firearm, so refusing to supply details kills the sale and you won't be purchasing said firearms.....
As mentioned if do not like details on receipt then don't take one. The sale is recorded on your account with gun details if warranty is required so receipt not needed to prove purchase.
Let's face it, after the last 6 years, you would have to be pretty blinkered to trust this govt, regardless of where you sit on some of the "conspiracy" stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
I believe the Police will now accept electonically stored records rather than paper but it took a long time for that to come about...And I suspect that is because it is easier to maintain over a longer period of time for reverse referral...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ftx325
When I started this conversation I just wanted people to be careful about what they do with the paper receipt .
We have to keep records on-site both electronically and on paper. They aren't collected by Police from us. They can come in and look at them anytime but cannot take the records off-site.Quote:
Originally Posted by imaca
Thanks Coop for that clarification .does same apply to ammo now too as Im due to pickup a couple of pkts of .22subsonics this week before that beloved harlot of Cahills adoration comes on line .BTW-the issue doesnt worry me unduly as ive been aware of it for sometime.
My missus unraveled mine at Christmas to put over the Turkey as it was rested after coming out of the oven. I got the last laugh though as I now use one of her aluminium pots. Ha ha ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by woods223
It doesn't matter what you look like @Rushy as long as you can still see clearly ahead and don't trip on any crap in your path you will be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
;)
We have to take details electronically for ammo. Ammo isn't being registered after the 24th though. There is no change to buying ammo until 2025 when it will trigger you to register your firearms. There's no rush to buy ammo to try and beat it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kotuku