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    Quote Originally Posted by northdude View Post
    Target practice and not getting emotionally attached to target
    that may or may not be a good idea but probably not a good idea to put into writing! du pleas allen would love to read some of the stuff we joke about!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by keneff View Post
    Christ help us all if we had judges like that here. U.S. judges have far too much power and hand down often ludicrous sentences for even minor offences. This thread is pretty low.
    Minister of cuddles?
    Ha!

    Im just having a general whinge about slack sentences and that sort of thing, true that we cant unleash judges fully but it would be nice if people had guaranteed consequences of getting caught being an asshole.

    I think maximum heavy sentences for mature crims but kids that fuck up need to be shamed and broken down with back breaking work. Or something otherwise totally unacceptable to them.


    I have been working on party policy and would like some feed back/ suggestions.
    Please read the following and let me know if you can help with ideas, Party badges/membership for good ideas.




    The Bofors party will fix this little red wagon like so:

    Start at the bottom, mandatory fine that is proportinate to your yearly income and overall wealth for little things.......


    LITTERING/TAGGING ETC= 5% yearly income

    FAILING TO INDICATE (1st offence) = written and computer logged official warning
    FAILING TO INDICATE (2nd offence) = $100 fine, 30 demerit ppoints
    FAILING TO INDICATE (3RD offence) = 5% yearly income, 3 months disqualification

    ASSAULT= assault

    MURDER= something public

    FAILING TO SALUTE 40MM= unimaginable

    THEFT (minor and first offence) = displayed in public/social media etc etc in stocks. name and shame.
    THEFT (adult and/or repeat minor) = as above, also put onto public register.
    THEFT (subsequent offences) = Hand removed and thrown at face.

    RAPE= Mandatory castration. And victims suggestion.

    FRAUD = Fraud tattoed on forehead
    FRAUD (high level sneaky asshole type back hander/bribery) = all assets forfeited, Name and shame campaign for 12 months. prison. banned from their industry and associated industries for life.

    BICKERING AND TALKING OVER EACH OTHER IN PARLIAMENT = removed from session, second offence removed for 6 months, third offence banned from politics for life.

    CRUELTY TO ANIMALS= put in cage and fed dog food and water and beaten etc etc etc. publicly

    WHINGING ABOUT HOW THE FINE/PUNISHMENT FOR YOUR OFFENCE IS UNFAIR = sex change



    most of the above punishments will have the controversial "sterilisation for freedom" option available. This option allows the offender to forfeit their nuts in exchange for major sentence reduction/deletion.
    The Bofors party believes that the benefits of removing the breeding capability from scum bags out weighs the short term risks of letting them go free, while maintaining the illusion of a sympathetic Bofors party that really cares for the feelings of some members of society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    We have one of the best judicial systems in the world, and in any event our judges are bound by legislation (the sentencing act) that is legislation from our democratically elected parliament. So don't beat up on the Judges, albeit that sometime they do get it wrong. And remember that the police can appeal sentences if they wish.

    Also and fortunately, our legislation general reflects prevailing social norms, not right wing hunting forum rants

    Heaven forbid if we ever become like like the American judicial system which is rife with bias and crony-ism.
    my point exactly!
    Democracy is the key element that is holding us back!
    I suggest that the Bofors party takes control . what could go wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40mm View Post
    Minister of cuddles?
    Ha!

    Im just having a general whinge about slack sentences and that sort of thing, true that we cant unleash judges fully but it would be nice if people had guaranteed consequences of getting caught being an asshole.

    I think maximum heavy sentences for mature crims but kids that fuck up need to be shamed and broken down with back breaking work. Or something otherwise totally unacceptable to them.


    I have been working on party policy and would like some feed back/ suggestions.
    Please read the following and let me know if you can help with ideas, Party badges/membership for good ideas.




    The Bofors party will fix this little red wagon like so:

    Start at the bottom, mandatory fine that is proportinate to your yearly income and overall wealth for little things.......


    LITTERING/TAGGING ETC= 5% yearly income

    FAILING TO INDICATE (1st offence) = written and computer logged official warning
    FAILING TO INDICATE (2nd offence) = $100 fine, 30 demerit ppoints
    FAILING TO INDICATE (3RD offence) = 5% yearly income, 3 months disqualification

    ASSAULT= assault

    MURDER= something public

    FAILING TO SALUTE 40MM= unimaginable

    THEFT (minor and first offence) = displayed in public/social media etc etc in stocks. name and shame.
    THEFT (adult and/or repeat minor) = as above, also put onto public register.
    THEFT (subsequent offences) = Hand removed and thrown at face.

    RAPE= Mandatory castration. And victims suggestion.

    FRAUD = Fraud tattoed on forehead
    FRAUD (high level sneaky asshole type back hander/bribery) = all assets forfeited, Name and shame campaign for 12 months. prison. banned from their industry and associated industries for life.

    BICKERING AND TALKING OVER EACH OTHER IN PARLIAMENT = removed from session, second offence removed for 6 months, third offence banned from politics for life.

    CRUELTY TO ANIMALS= put in cage and fed dog food and water and beaten etc etc etc. publicly

    WHINGING ABOUT HOW THE FINE/PUNISHMENT FOR YOUR OFFENCE IS UNFAIR = sex change



    most of the above punishments will have the controversial "sterilisation for freedom" option available. This option allows the offender to forfeit their nuts in exchange for major sentence reduction/deletion.
    The Bofors party believes that the benefits of removing the breeding capability from scum bags out weighs the short term risks of letting them go free, while maintaining the illusion of a sympathetic Bofors party that really cares for the feelings of some members of society.
    Yeah, I could be persuaded to vote for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    While the question was not directed at anyone except @A330driver , after much thought and discussion previously,, I wonder if we can find a cheaper deterrent to petty crime. I know referring to something like this as petty is hard as I know it certainly does not feel petty to the victims. We had a very similar situation with one exception. It was not for money. A discussion about an elderly relatives' welfare turned into a double assault leaving my parents very badly hurt. We had many discussions around punishments as the offenders did not even get PD. One of the thoughts we had around punishment were corporal as a deterrent. While it is against every bleeding heart liberals ideals it still has several things going for it.

    1) It hurts. A lot. That's the point. But no permanent damage apart from the threat of more if this occurs again.
    2) Relatively cheap to administer especially when compared to even short jail terms.
    3) Will give offenders some idea of the pain they have inflicted upon others.
    4) It does not include spending time with worse criminals for them to learn or develop into worse examples of humanity.....

    Whther NZ will ever change , or even want to , it wont matter. the relaxing of boundaries and punishments we have seen over the last decades has lead to the situation we have now where this entitlement by the young especially is a large part of the issue.
    I can smell a ministerial position brewing for @timattalon..... very good suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40mm View Post
    I can smell a ministerial position brewing for @timattalon..... very good suggestion.
    I thank you for your offer, but politely decline. My first employer may have had the right idea. All those that could really do well for the community and country in politics are probably already too busy doing just that for their community and country to allow them the time to enter politics. Hence the only ones left to enter politics are the ones who are unable or unwilling to do their best for the community or country. All those that would be the best options to have in charge are too busy doing what needs to be done. All those left that want to be in charge are precisely the ones who should not be left in charge.

    The more I think about the man he was, the more I realise how right he was. Some of you that are older than me and come from around Marlborough, may even remember him. He ran a shop in Blenheim called "McRobies". One of the most generous, honourable and proper men I have ever met. I am a better person for having known him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40mm View Post
    Minister of cuddles?
    Ha!

    Im just having a general whinge about slack sentences and that sort of thing, true that we cant unleash judges fully but it would be nice if people had guaranteed consequences of getting caught being an asshole.

    I think maximum heavy sentences for mature crims but kids that fuck up need to be shamed and broken down with back breaking work. Or something otherwise totally unacceptable to them.


    I have been working on party policy and would like some feed back/ suggestions.
    Please read the following and let me know if you can help with ideas, Party badges/membership for good ideas.




    The Bofors party will fix this little red wagon like so:

    Start at the bottom, mandatory fine that is proportinate to your yearly income and overall wealth for little things.......


    LITTERING/TAGGING ETC= 5% yearly income

    FAILING TO INDICATE (1st offence) = written and computer logged official warning
    FAILING TO INDICATE (2nd offence) = $100 fine, 30 demerit ppoints
    FAILING TO INDICATE (3RD offence) = 5% yearly income, 3 months disqualification

    ASSAULT= assault

    MURDER= something public

    FAILING TO SALUTE 40MM= unimaginable

    THEFT (minor and first offence) = displayed in public/social media etc etc in stocks. name and shame.
    THEFT (adult and/or repeat minor) = as above, also put onto public register.
    THEFT (subsequent offences) = Hand removed and thrown at face.

    RAPE= Mandatory castration. And victims suggestion.

    FRAUD = Fraud tattoed on forehead
    FRAUD (high level sneaky asshole type back hander/bribery) = all assets forfeited, Name and shame campaign for 12 months. prison. banned from their industry and associated industries for life.

    BICKERING AND TALKING OVER EACH OTHER IN PARLIAMENT = removed from session, second offence removed for 6 months, third offence banned from politics for life.

    CRUELTY TO ANIMALS= put in cage and fed dog food and water and beaten etc etc etc. publicly

    WHINGING ABOUT HOW THE FINE/PUNISHMENT FOR YOUR OFFENCE IS UNFAIR = sex change



    most of the above punishments will have the controversial "sterilisation for freedom" option available. This option allows the offender to forfeit their nuts in exchange for major sentence reduction/deletion.
    The Bofors party believes that the benefits of removing the breeding capability from scum bags out weighs the short term risks of letting them go free, while maintaining the illusion of a sympathetic Bofors party that really cares for the feelings of some members of society.
    Definitely voting Bofors Party next election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    I thank you for your offer, but politely decline. My first employer may have had the right idea. All those that could really do well for the community and country in politics are probably already too busy doing just that for their community and country to allow them the time to enter politics. Hence the only ones left to enter politics are the ones who are unable or unwilling to do their best for the community or country. All those that would be the best options to have in charge are too busy doing what needs to be done. All those left that want to be in charge are precisely the ones who should not be left in charge.

    The more I think about the man he was, the more I realise how right he was. Some of you that are older than me and come from around Marlborough, may even remember him. He ran a shop in Blenheim called "McRobies". One of the most generous, honourable and proper men I have ever met. I am a better person for having known him.
    I fear he was right...

    “the most improper job of any man, even saints (who at any rate were at least unwilling to take it on), is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.”

    ― J.R.R. Tolkien

    But on the other hand someone has to do it so.... Dave we are picking you
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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    I thank you for your offer, but politely decline. My first employer may have had the right idea. All those that could really do well for the community and country in politics are probably already too busy doing just that for their community and country to allow them the time to enter politics. Hence the only ones left to enter politics are the ones who are unable or unwilling to do their best for the community or country. All those that would be the best options to have in charge are too busy doing what needs to be done. All those left that want to be in charge are precisely the ones who should not be left in charge.

    The more I think about the man he was, the more I realise how right he was. Some of you that are older than me and come from around Marlborough, may even remember him. He ran a shop in Blenheim called "McRobies". One of the most generous, honourable and proper men I have ever met. I am a better person for having known him.
    Very true mate. id love to spend a few weeks as dictator though..... the soft cocks would need so much therapy once im done.
    But I agree.

    Still........VOTE DAVE
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40mm View Post
    Very true mate. id love to spend a few weeks as dictator though..... the soft cocks would need so much therapy once im done.
    But I agree.

    Still........VOTE DAVE
    By way of therapy, it would have to be medicinal.....They would simply have to take a cement viagra....and harden the fu_k up
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    Quote Originally Posted by northdude View Post
    That would be a dumb question to get into on a shooting forum pm to discuss it if you want but in this day and age a robot could do it are you prepared to take on repeat offender's in your home and rehabilitate them
    Fair enough.

    Depends on the offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A330driver View Post
    Cordite..which justice system are you talking of....The so-called US “justice system”,is approximately 48 different states,some bigger ,some smaller than the size of Kiwi,.....so let’s say 48 New Zealand’s with all differing “justice systems”.......you do realize that ????

    To use your word “bizarre”....then yes it would be....no one state has the same justice system,so which one would you like to talk about
    @A330driver
    To quote from the link in the original posting:

    "An Alabama teen laughed as a judge sentenced him to 65 years in prison for murder and theft after he rejected a plea deal that would have given him 25 years behind bars.
    Elmore County Circuit Judge Sibley Reynolds offered Lakeith Smith, 18, a final opportunity last week to take a plea deal before the first witnesses were brought to the stand - an offer he rejected, the Daily Mail reported.
    Yesterday Smith, of Montgomery, was convicted of felony murder, burglary and theft for his part in two 2015 home break-ins in Millbrook.
    On Thursday Judge Sibley Reynolds of Alabama's 19th Judicial Circuit Court handed down three sentences Smith will serve back to back.
    He was sentenced to 30 years for murder, 15 years for burglary and 10 years each for two theft convictions.
    Despite the drastically lengthened sentence of 65 years, Smith grinned and guffawed as the judgement was read."

    I take it you did not disagree on the point about the grossly disproportionality of sentencing? One burglary plus two thefts earning 35 yrs?
    No wonder he laughed. LOL, there's me laughing too. Only sane response. Little pieces of shit like him likely will recognise the stepdad type handing out severe beatings, to someone else's kid, for not eating his porridge. Hey, divorced dads out there, who's beating your kid now? LOL.

    No, lex talionis is proportional. In the case of theft, it was simply pay back theft threefold and matter is settled. The threefoldness calculated in all the bother suffered in the process. 35 years?!? LOL LOL LOL. Bizarre indeed.
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    Interesting rant on the judge in question.

    https://stopjudicialcorruption.com/2...kers-property/

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    Guns don't kill people - drivers do.

 

 

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