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    On this day in history...

    This event postdated by 2 days:

    69 years ago today, at 0815 GMT+9, "Little Boy" was released by the crew of the Enola Gay and delivered to the city of Hiroshima.
    Last edited by Ryan; 08-08-2014 at 11:46 AM. Reason: Forked up the date!

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    Yes! And five years later, some nations obviously forgot about it and so started another biffo! A total of 3,794 New Zealand soldiers served in Kayforce and 1,300 in the RNZN deployment.
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    The last surviving crew member passed away last month. In a recent interview he said by dropping the bomb it saved a lot of lives including Japanese. given that he was there, he would have a bit more authority on this subject than any of us

    Theodore 'Dutch' VanKirk: Last surviving Enola Gay crew member dies - Veterans - Stripes

    I honestly believe the use of the atomic bomb saved lives in the long run," VanKirk told The Associated Press in a 2005 interview. "There were a lot of lives saved. Most of the lives saved were Japanese."

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    Word has it there was a third bomb on the way to Tokyo while they where signing the peace agreement (or similar) and if Japan pulled out it was ready to be dropped.

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    there was no surrender for the warriors...you fell on your own bayonnet or sabre...they were put in a situation, even at the risk of losing face, they really had no alternative...inspite of the shocking state after Hiroshima, Japan was not going to take any chances with what China might have had planned for them...to lose face is one thing, to have it wiped off is another...the bombs did save hundreds and thousands more...the world had lost its stomach for the whole job...it had to end...thankfully Japan capitulated as it did...
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    "Japan was not going to take any chances with what China might have had planned for them..."
    You mean in retribution for the atrocities Japan commit when they invaded China

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    Don't forget the Soviet arse kicking of the Japanese forces in Manchuria which incidentally coincided with the dropping of the second atomic weapon on Nagasaki. The Soviet Union transferred nearly 2 milllion men and their matériel from the European Theater, all the way across to the eastern side of the country for the campaign!

    If anyone has the Battlefield or the superb BBC's World at War series, one should watch this often overlooked logistical marvel!*











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    Quote Originally Posted by sako75 View Post
    "Japan was not going to take any chances with what China might have had planned for them..."
    You mean in retribution for the atrocities Japan commit when they invaded China
    You would think so!

    A few weeks ago I had a multi hour cup of tea that turned into firewater with a old man(in both his broken English and my broken mandarin with a iPhone helping out both of us) where he told me the story of him being turned into a child soldier when the Japanese invaded china killing most of his family, he spent the next decade fighting before fleeing on a small boat to Taiwan along with the rest of the nationalists-not that he then understood the dif between them and the communists.he then was then used as practically a slave for another decade building taiwan's basic infrastructure.(they were forced to save tho) To this day he has a hate for the Japanese that is hard to reconcile with both the pre 48 Chinese family's in Taiwan and the native people, along with how his grate grandchildren worship japan. FYI Taiwan was the "shining"example of Japanese control that they tried to sell to those Asian lands they overtook during the ww2 period.

    Japan had a lot to fear,and the atom bombs gave them a way to end the war and there still be a japan that was acceptable to there populace
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    Could they get the Enola Gay out of mothballs and see if it could fly to the middle east?
    Which is worse, ignorance or apathy...I don't know and don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sako75 View Post
    "Japan was not going to take any chances with what China might have had planned for them..."
    You mean in retribution for the atrocities Japan commit when they invaded China
    Yes!!!! They probably figured that it was better to kow tow to the UN than risk a damn well deserved bollocking from China...it will happen one day, that's just my take on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Just quietly, I have both collections.
    Will ask my brother for his copies.
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    On this day in history ......... I was going to say something flippant like Elvis ate his first hamburger but won't now as the thread has started with immense gravitas and I don't want to make light of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spook View Post
    Could they get the Enola Gay out of mothballs and see if it could fly to the middle east?
    That's the best idea I've heard in ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    This event postdated by 2 days:

    69 years ago today, at 0815 GMT+9, "Little Boy" was released by the crew of the Enola Gay and delivered to the city of Hiroshima.
    And that boy was the making of the end of the War
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    I actually thought the bomb was dropped on Aug 6th, not 8th. But that doesn't matter.
    It sickens me to the core to think that humans in one part of the world can inflict that kind of suffering on another part, for whatever reasons.
    For that same country to then spend the next 70 years telling the rest of the world that they should not have such weapons because they are really really nasty, is hypocrisy at its worse in my book.


    Sorry. Ignore the first bit. I didn't notice the OP was post dated
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