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    A little bit off topic but here it comes anyway.... Was talking to a old guy about the gun ban thing... He tells me he once had to hand in a 410 that was pistol length years ago. He said it was called a Kia gun. He said they were popular with farmers in the South for controlling kia back in the day. Well that's his story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bully View Post
    A little bit off topic but here it comes anyway.... Was talking to a old guy about the gun ban thing... He tells me he once had to hand in a 410 that was pistol length years ago. He said it was called a Kia gun. He said they were popular with farmers in the South for controlling kia back in the day. Well that's his story.
    Yep kea guns were common place in the early Canterbury high country. My grandad used to hunt kea at night during the winter when the sheep were least active and the kea were hanging off their backs.

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    A question has to be asked here.
    2 kea died even tho there was heaps of things done to mitigate it happening.
    Kea were fed Thar to put them off eating baits and baits that make them sick, yet still 2 of the monitored birds died. 15%ish

    So how many die when there is nothing done to try and prevent kea fatalities in a normal 1080 drop?
    How many other native birds die?

    I am sure I remember a time when it was said if they ever have 1 kea death as a result of 1080 they would stop using it....... Yeah Na.



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    "Kea gun" was just a Kiwi nick-name for them. My first ever job was working in Tisdalls Sports in PNth after school and during the holidays. We used to sell them. They had a side lever opening and case hardened receiver. Not sure where they were made - Spain or Turkey seems to come to mind. Their barrel was just long enough so they weren't classified as a pistol. No sights, just a brass bead near the muzzle.
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    Don't these dickheads understand the characteristics of the parrot family? Fanatics never learn.
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    [QUOTE=R93;828752]A question has to be asked here.

    So how many die when there is nothing done to try and prevent kea fatalities in a normal 1080 drop?
    How many other native birds die?
    I am sure I remember a time when it was said if they ever have 1 kea death as a result of 1080 they would stop using it....... QUOTE]

    Exactly, farkin heaps ... but DOC will never admit it

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    One of the birds had high levels of lead in its body.?.....
    Now I just wonder where a alpine parrot would get lead from? I don't recall shotguns being used by rec hunters in the high country.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    "Kea gun" was just a Kiwi nick-name for them. My first ever job was working in Tisdalls Sports in PNth after school and during the holidays. We used to sell them. They had a side lever opening and case hardened receiver. Not sure where they were made - Spain or Turkey seems to come to mind. Their barrel was just long enough so they weren't classified as a pistol. No sights, just a brass bead near the muzzle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    A question has to be asked here.
    2 kea died even tho there was heaps of things done to mitigate it happening.
    Kea were fed Thar to put them off eating baits and baits that make them sick, yet still 2 of the monitored birds died. 15%ish

    So how many die when there is nothing done to try and prevent kea fatalities in a normal 1080 drop?
    How many other native birds die?

    I am sure I remember a time when it was said if they ever have 1 kea death as a result of 1080 they would stop using it....... Yeah Na.



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    They were running at an average 13% mortality in monitored drops https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...ions-uncertain killing 20 of 150 overall at that point.
    The DoC PR is to cherry pick the science- in the Okarito nesting study they just didn’t use data from dead birds or their nests (they killed 77% of kea at North Okarito).
    Killing 13 percent of resident fledged kea to every poison drop in a slow maturing (K Select) species like this, is going to drive them extinct.
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    twig and tweet keeping quiet on this one?

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    How do they conclude high lead levels before the analysis is done?
    There are high levels of lead in the natural environment. The birds have probably always had this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    How do they conclude high lead levels before the analysis is done?
    There are high levels of lead in the natural environment. The birds have probably always had this.
    They actually put a lot of blame on kea eating shot Thar from culls etc.

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