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    More Anti-Gun Sentiment In The Community

    For those of you interested in antique arms auctions I have just received an email advising that for the upcoming auction by NZAHAA Taranaki Branch, they have had their venue pulled at the 11th hour on the grounds that the venue owner (New Plymouth Club) apparently don’t wish to have any association with firearms. Nice bloody timing! This despite the Branch being clear on their intended usage when organising the hire and then spending $s promoting the venue.

    Fortunately the Branch has at very very short notice been able to jack up an alternative, in fact probably better, venue.

    The noose continues to tighten doesn’t it?

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    we can only do our best to show the public that we are the good guys . . . not an easy task in a climate of cheap sensational one sided reporting

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    How can they actually do that? If they had a contract to hire the club rooms on what basis did the club pull out?

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    The club should be able to hire their clubrooms to whoever they like and keep out whoever they don't like. For whatever reasons they like.

    What if they found out at the last minute their clubrooms had been hired by the Mongrel Mob for a hui? Or a man-boy love association conference?

    Should they not be allowed to cancel the booking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    The club should be able to hire their clubrooms to whoever they like and keep out whoever they don't like. For whatever reasons they like.

    What if they found out at the last minute their clubrooms had been hired by the Mongrel Mob for a hui? Or a man-boy love association conference?

    Should they not be allowed to cancel the booking?
    If they discovered that it related to firearms at the last moment I could understand but my take on it was that when the booking was made they knew what it was for... Bit rude to cancel at a later date when nothing has changed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    Should they not be allowed to cancel the booking?
    Yes they should, and that would have been the correct thing to do before agreeing to the hire. But since they knew before hand what the event was and hired the hall they have entered a contract. They are now indicating that they wish to break that contract, which is covered by NZ law in the Contractual Remedies Act, and should have to pay remunerations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    They are now indicating that they wish to break that contract, which is covered by NZ law in the Contractual Remedies Act, and should have to pay remunerations.
    Trying to get compensation would simply make the Antique Arms Assn look like a bunch of cunts and they would soon never be able to hire a venue anywhere.

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    Would be interesting to dig out a bit who is or are the owners of the venue and where they come from? That might say it all....
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    Its an incorporated society. Nothing hidden. They are just being a-holes, no doubt someone complained about the event.

    Number 214677

    Name NEW PLYMOUTH CLUB INCORPORATED

    Incorporated 06-FEB-1912

    Current Status REGISTERED

    Organisation Type Incorporated Society

    Previous Names (Names changed prior to 1992 may not be recorded)

    No Previous Names on record

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    New Plymouth

    Address for Communication
    P O Box 375
    New Plymouth
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    Trying to get compensation would simply make the Antique Arms Assn look like a bunch of cunts and they would soon never be able to hire a venue anywhere.
    No. It would send a message that if you are being a bunch of inconsiderate cnuts that reneg on a contract that you will bear the financial costs you have caused. Quite simple really, if we all lie down and be door mats we will continually get walked all over. Here, let me brush off the top step for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    Trying to get compensation would simply make the Antique Arms Assn look like a bunch of cunts and they would soon never be able to hire a venue anywhere.
    Maybe they should try the flipside of what the club have done and book venues then cancel at short notice, expecting no consequences for their actions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    No. It would send a message that if you are being a bunch of inconsiderate cnuts that reneg on a contract that you will bear the financial costs you have caused. Quite simple really, if we all lie down and be door mats we will continually get walked all over. Here, let me brush off the top step for you.
    It was hireage of a clubrooms for an auction, not a contract to build a block of apartments. Stop being a princess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    It was hireage of a clubrooms for an auction, not a contract to build a block of apartments. Stop being a princess.
    A contract is a contract. Read the laws on contracts. You are as wrong as you could possibly be, Princess. You really cannot stand being shown to be wrong can you?

    There will be costs involved in arranging and advertising a new venue and that needs to be borne by the ones that cause the cost.

    If you sent you're favourite firearm to a gunsmith and he completely cocked it up would you be happy to just leave it? Hey, it's not a block of apartments.
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    And how much would it cost for the AAA to take the club to court to recover the costs?

    Just because you can do something dosen't mean you should.

    If I chased everyone who broke a contract with me through the courts, I'd spend more time in court than running my business.
    And the only winners would be the lawyers.

    Edited to add that I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than spend all day in an auction with geriatric AAA members anyway.

 

 

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