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    Netflix - last days in vietnam

    Just watched. Interesting and clarified a few things.

    Not a bad watch.
    Please excuse spelling, as finger speed is sometimes behind brain spped........ Or maybe the other wayy.....

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    Was that on NZ Netflix bro?
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    its on nz netflix
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    I saw that too (yep Netflix NZ @Gibo). Was a good watch.

    Another good one is McCullin. Don McCullin autobiography

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwijames View Post
    I saw that too (yep Netflix NZ @Gibo). Was a good watch.

    Another good one is McCullin. Don McCullin autobiography

    War/conflict journo. Actually went places to report on rather than cut and paste Twitter feed / Facebook pages.
    Speaking of Netflix James I assume you are in to Bojack Horseman - is it worth a watch?

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    Thanks Beaker, will add it to my list...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Thanks Beaker, will add it to my list...
    I'm a bit ignorant of the Vietnam war, so I'd been keen on your thoughts of the doco ie is it correct or was it a bit one sided etc....
    Please excuse spelling, as finger speed is sometimes behind brain spped........ Or maybe the other wayy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOC View Post
    Speaking of Netflix James I assume you are in to Bojack Horseman - is it worth a watch?
    Depends on how cynical you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
    I'm a bit ignorant of the Vietnam war, so I'd been keen on your thoughts of the doco ie is it correct or was it a bit one sided etc....
    I would say it's not too political, really more a what happened account. McCullin is very political.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    I would say it's not too political, really more a what happened account. McCullin is very political.
    I think that's why I liked it, as it didn't seem political, and just a practical account.

    Some of those helicopter pilots were both skilled and had steel balls. The Chinook pilot, that had wife on board, dropping baby off, then other people, then flying one up, taking off flight suite in a hover then dunking it and swimming away..... ballsy. (With some luck - but luck is a calculated risk...)
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    Pirate bay has some informative Doco,s one is a 6 part series most of the filming is on the battlefield pretty sobering , one series i think called search & destroy is based on mel gibsons "we were soldiers" his movie is pretty close to what happened some of the chopper pilots got shot down 2 or 3 times getting men in & out carnage also a first is the use of the choppers & the fact that they based success on body count not on ground gained so basically they would fly or move in have a bombup & leave ,enemy retakes the ground , series gives a good overall picture.

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    Seen that one too I think it gives accounts from both sides? It was quite good.

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    It does a bit especially some political stuff which turned out to be a massive hurdle , also found it interesting just how many VC there where living in Cambodia out of reach from the US

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
    I think that's why I liked it, as it didn't seem political, and just a practical account.

    Some of those helicopter pilots were both skilled and had steel balls. The Chinook pilot, that had wife on board, dropping baby off, then other people, then flying one up, taking off flight suite in a hover then dunking it and swimming away..... ballsy. (With some luck - but luck is a calculated risk...)
    It was the poignant moment for me too.

    I don't understand why the video was rated so poorly, it echoes pretty much all of the documentaries I've watched on the topic. The airliner taking off with the stairs down and people hanging on... An Australian correspondent was on the aircraft and (according to his account) a woman clinging to the stairs, literally wave goodbye as the airspeed overcame her grasp. Buzzy.

    America won the war militarily - they absolutely decimated the NVA / VC after Tet - they were a spent force and that's why they eventually sued for peace at the Paris Peace Accords in 1973 because they had nowhere else to go. They were forced to the negotiating table. They hated being bombed by the B-52s.

    What they (the Communists) did win was the propaganda war - the loss of public support in the US combined with Nixon's resignation was the final blow. The South Vietnamese, although they'd been "groomed" for wont of a better word, to take over militarily - still relied heavily on the US to fight the fight. So this factor combined with Thieu's ineptitude to command his forces just really led to a domino effect ultimately.

    Very simplistic overview but ultimately it was to me one of the greatest human tragedies of the later 20th century- and another notch on the gunbelt of Socialism. I find it admirable that America and Australia, New Zealand and other Allies fought against a belief system which is to this day, should be thoroughly reprehensible to those that believe in freedom of speech, association, free to start businesses etc.

    There's no other country in the world that could have conducted that evacuation in Saigon in 1975, even if they wanted to. America was and is the only country that could and did do their best (at every level) to evacuate as many people as possible. What other country would be able to push over several million+ dollars each worth of helicopters in order to save people.

    Even to this day, if there is a global catastrophe - the country that is the first to render immediate assistance is the USA.

    What Communist countries do so?

    None.

    Why?

    Because they don't really exist anymore and those that do, are failed states and with zero level of altruism.
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