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Thread: NZ Merchant Navy Day

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    NZ Merchant Navy Day

    Not sure how many people noticed the red ensign on the harbour bridge yesterday?

    The Merchant Navy in the Second World War - The Merchant Navy | NZHistory, New Zealand history online

    For me the merchant marine are the unsung heroes of WW II. Putting to sea in what were often rust buckets in atrocious conditions (particularly in the North Atlantic), knowing that they were heading into U-boat infested waters, often crewing a giant bomb that was dangerous to the crew only. No means really to defend themselves, very little chance of being picked up if you landed in the drink.

    Without their efforts the war would surely have been lost.
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    Here Here ! I have a great Uncle who survived two torpedo attacks in the merchant navy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengy View Post
    Here Here ! I have a great Uncle who survived two torpedo attacks in the merchant navy.
    Tell me more Pengy - where did he sail from, what was his ship carrying?
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    I wish I knew the whole story Ryan, but alas, the old boy is now 93 and just lost his partner last week .
    My son may know a bit about it as he is very interested in WW11 stuuf and had some long chats with my Uncle. I shall enquire
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    My maternal grandfather was in the Merchant Navy Pengy. He was a tough old coot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengy View Post
    I wish I knew the whole story Ryan, but alas, the old boy is now 93 and just lost his partner last week .
    My son may know a bit about it as he is very interested in WW11 stuuf and had some long chats with my Uncle. I shall enquire
    I'd encourage it - I lament not having spent more time with my serving elders, all of whom deceased in my late teens.
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    Our Neighbour from a few years ago was pom buy the name of Finch.
    He was in the merchant navy or merchant Marine or what ever it was called, I really don't know, guess I should
    Anyway, he was sunk twice.
    damn brave man.
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    Yeah Merchant Navy is British, Merchant Marine is American.
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    I am working on it
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    a very usefull resource
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    Thanks Ryan, definitely British then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengy View Post
    I am working on it
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    a very usefull resource
    Indeed - I'm trying to work on my British ancestor but I don't have his service number as British medals were not numbered and frankly the "presentation" (cardboard box containing said medals) speaks volumes of the state that Britain found itself in immediately after the war.

    Moderately bombed, monetarily almost bankrupt but morally wealthy, populace on ration cards + returning demobbed = additional rationing. Ja, I don't think that they had much time to personalise everything but I digress. I'm having difficulties with the MoD and I am struggling to find the time to hammer it home.
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    Strange Bedfellows.
    I have a friend whose father was a British Army officer who met his Mother during the British occupation of Germany after the war.
    His mother was in Luftwaffe up in Norway during the war loading bombs into the aircraft that were attacking the Russian Convoys.

    She may well have loaded that 'bomb' that sunk the ship that her own brother in law was crewing in one of those convoys.

 

 

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