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    photos would help Im a sparky
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiB View Post
    And when it comes to the safety of yourself and yours, a sparky is a small investment in yours and their welfare
    I am inclined to agree with @SiB.

    Most electrical is fairly straight forward. But if you are not confident, then mistakes can be fatal- to you and others. In the words of a five year old that learnt the hard way "Electric bites" and it bit hard enough to throw him across a room and knocked him out. He never forgot that lesson.

    It is a bit like driving a car.....Very low risk, but with a high consequence if something goes wrong. We assess the risk as a very low probability that something will go wrong, and it is fairly likely that most of the time all will go well. But all it takes is one mistake and the consequences are very disproportionate to the risk. One stuff up with either can have very serious consequences.

    If you have any doubts, stay safe, get it checked.

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    get it checked, probable fire issue.
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    Yes heading that way, I'll get a tradesman to check it out.
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    Boo!

    Where's your sense of adventure haha.

    When you say only two wires, do you mean only two cores or two multi core wires?

    If it's a single switch panel with only two single core wires the problem will be up top and there will always be power up there, even with the switch working correctly and turned off, so be careful.

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    There is two wires one big one and one smaller one.
    Cheers everyone I think it is now time for a professional to look at it.
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    If it's an older bayonet single lamp fitting my money would be it's top fed and the heat over the years has melted it and now the terminals are shorting out.

    Hurry up and get it fixed so we can have our answer and instant gratification. And you a properly working light I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibblet View Post
    If it's an older bayonet single lamp fitting my money would be it's top fed and the heat over the years has melted it and now the terminals are shorting out.

    Hurry up and get it fixed so we can have our answer and instant gratification. And you a properly working light I guess
    There's no switch in a batten just the hot and cold wires. If they were shorted out the only light would be the flash of the fuse wire melting or MCB popping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwijames View Post
    There's no switch in a batten just the hot and cold wires. If they were shorted out the only light would be the flash of the fuse wire melting or MCB popping.
    If it went between phase and neutral than yarp, pop.
    But some of the old houses are fed to the top with the phase and switch wire combined in the "loop" terminal then taken to the switch to interrupt then back to the phase input in the light fitting.

    Quite common for these old ones to break down over time and short between the switched phase and loop terminal so the light ends up with constant power.

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    When you say "switch" do you mean
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    Hpm, gross.
    Top one, switch.

    Bottom circuit breaker.

    So modern house goes circuit breaker to switch to light right.

    Some older houses went, fuse to light to switch to light.
    I should probably just draw a picture so I'm easier to understand lol.

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    Like this? Never seen it but would make running supply to lighting circuits easier. No looping back from switch to switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibblet View Post
    Hpm, gross.
    Top one, switch.

    Bottom circuit breaker.

    So modern house goes circuit breaker to switch to light right.

    Some older houses went, fuse to light to switch to light.
    I should probably just draw a picture so I'm easier to understand lol.
    That wouldn't work. It needs a loop from the hot side to the cold side somewhere.

    hot - circuit breaker - switch - light - cold

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    old style hot - fuse - light - switch - cold, where you been to remove fuse to change the bulb because the fitting is always hot.
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    Exactly. Pictures are so easy haha.
    The only way to isolate the fitting/light though is via fuse/ circuit breaker so if there's a fault that won't trip the CB you're out of luck.

    Edit: @gadgetman look at James's picture, you end up getting a breakdown of the material isolating the orange/green and the green terminals in his picture

 

 

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