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    Teaching our kids to kill in name of conservation

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...f-conservation

    OPINION: In New Zealand, possums are treated with the utmost disdain as imposters from Australia that kill our native bird life, eat our trees, and do not belong here. The war cry is to kill, kill, kill. It is being foisted on our young in schools by governmental and other agencies who are committed to the Predator Free 2050 initiative.

    One notable example is Kiwibank, which has partnered with the Department of Conservation and Predator Free NZ to launch the Kiwibank Predator Free Schools initiative. This involves the young in trapping 'predators' on their school grounds.

    In New Zealand schools killing animals as part of conservation efforts is a regular occurrence. In many rural schools possum hunts are held, with the dead possums often entered in 'best dressed possum' competitions. The dead possums are posed in a variety of ghoulish ways, with attempts to be humorous evident.

    Uruti School in Taranaki is particularly noteworthy and has reached international headlines with their display of creative dead possums. These include (but are not limited to) Donald Trump, Van Gogh, a boxer with torso skinned, a bride, a butcher and a bikini babe possum. The dead possums are stiffened with rigor mortis, frozen spectacles of ridicule. These displays are not 'harmless fun' as the schools claim they are. They are creepy and disrespectful.

    So how did New Zealand get to this place where schools are condoning disrespecting dead animals? It is an outrageous scenario, especially in New Zealand, which has a reputation for being a nation of animal lovers.

    There are many reasons why the occurrence of school possum hunts and competitions remains largely unchallenged by many.

    Firstly, it is an oddity largely located in rural communities that goes under the urban radar. It would be fair to say that the rural /urban divide is partially responsible. Many urban dwellers may be unaware this is happening in rural schools.

    Some rural folk may be unhappy with what is happening but feel that due to social pressure they are unable to speak out. In fact, Professor Marc Bekoff (University of Colorado) has spoken out about school possum hunts in New Zealand.

    He says he received an email from a distressed mother asking him to help her daughter tell the teachers she does not want to participate in the school possum hunts. He noted that the woman was at her "wit's end because people in power were telling the kids it was perfectly OK to harm and to kill the animals and to parade around with corpses of the animals they slaughtered".

    Another reason New Zealanders accept killing animals in schools is due to the country-wide hatred of possums and their classification as 'pests'. This means that no one really cares what you do with them - as long as they are killed. Imagine if it was dead cats or dogs being posed in bizarre posthumous ways by school children, or being caught in traps. The collective national outcry would be heard all the way to the farthest corners of the world.

    Finally, hating on the hapless possums provides a kind of social cohesion that binds New Zealanders together. It performs a social function of sorts. As a relatively young nation New Zealand identity is shaky. Despite being known for our friendly nature and clean-green environment, love of the outdoors and animals, the reality is often quite different. We are not clean and green, but rather face numerous environmental issues caused primarily by habitat destruction, the introduction of exotic species and over farming the land. But killing possums as part of school fundraisers is certainly not going to make things better.

    It may make us feel like we are working on a common goal and teaching our children to care for the land, but really at their young age children should not be involved in killing and glorifying in death in the name of environmental care. Instead children can learn to care for the environment through being involved in ecological restoration projects - planting trees, making sustainable gardens, waste reduction and recycling, riparian planting on waterways the list is endless.

    True environmental education is issues-based, and while introduced species are a big issue for New Zealand's biodiversity we should not involve children in killing. It is more educational for children to be active in exploring the issue for themselves and making decisions on what actions to take. A school-wide hate fest on possums only teaches children to kill and leaves out the bigger picture of environmental care.

    Our children are worth so much more. They are the future of our nation. If we want a compassionate and intelligent future society we need to do better.

    * Dr Lynley Tulloch is an early childhood education tutor and has also worked in the field of education for sustainability. Tulloch has written both academic and popular pieces on a variety of issues, including animal rights and welfare, child poverty and environmental sustainability.

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    I agree. Save the possum!
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    Ill have two please! @Pointer
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    I think if people traded in their cats and kept possums as pets the world would be a better place!
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    Imagine if it was dead cats or dogs being posed in bizarre posthumous ways
    She is a sick puppy. I don't think any of the schools have gone that far, but she is suggesting digging them up and posing them after they have been buried.
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    It states "Firstly, it is an oddity largely located in rural communities that goes under the urban radar. It would be fair to say that the rural /urban divide is partially responsible. Many urban dwellers may be unaware this is happening in rural schools." and it comes to the conclusion "Some rural folk may be unhappy with what is happening but feel that due to social pressure they are unable to speak out. " when in truth, it is probably the Rural / Urban divide but the Urban has forgotten that to get rid of pests animals die. I bet they think their meat from the supermarket did not harm any animals!!! The true reason it is called "Stuff'd"

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    And her Professor????? Well He looks to be a bigger fruit loop than she is.

    He is the co-founder, with Jane Goodall, of Ethologists for the Ethical Treatment of Animals,[2] a fellow of the Animal Behavior Society and a former Guggenheim fellow. He lectures internationally on animal behavior, cognitive ethology (the study of animal minds), and behavioral ecology, and writes a science column about animal emotion for Psychology Today.[3] His homepage is Marc Bekoff | Home

    Bekoff is a vegan.[4] He is also a patron of the Captive Animals Protection Society, a charity campaigning against the exotic pet trade, and the use of non-human animals in circuses and zoos.[5] In May 2010 he argued in an article for the Greater Good Science Center, "Expanding Our Compassionate Footprint," that human beings need to abandon human exceptionalism: "Research on animal morality is blossoming, and if we can break free of theoretical prejudices, we may come to better understand ourselves and the other animals with whom we share this planet."[6]

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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    And her Professor????? Well He looks to be a bigger fruit loop than she is.

    He is the co-founder, with Jane Goodall, of Ethologists for the Ethical Treatment of Animals,[2] a fellow of the Animal Behavior Society and a former Guggenheim fellow. He lectures internationally on animal behavior, cognitive ethology (the study of animal minds), and behavioral ecology, and writes a science column about animal emotion for Psychology Today.[3] His homepage is Marc Bekoff | Home

    Bekoff is a vegan.[4] He is also a patron of the Captive Animals Protection Society, a charity campaigning against the exotic pet trade, and the use of non-human animals in circuses and zoos.[5] In May 2010 he argued in an article for the Greater Good Science Center, "Expanding Our Compassionate Footprint," that human beings need to abandon human exceptionalism: "Research on animal morality is blossoming, and if we can break free of theoretical prejudices, we may come to better understand ourselves and the other animals with whom we share this planet."[6]

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    I have surgically remove a few of these animal minds, tends to be SFA in them, when done really fast!
    This guys an "educated" moron!!
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    I can see where they are coming from tbh, when I shot my first animal it was huge mix of feelings good bad and sad, when I shot 6 possums last winter and they had babys suckling that i had to put down.. it eas horrible but i had to do it so they didn't slowly starve to death inside their mothers. We we need to teach our young to respect death and killing whether pest or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    She is a sick puppy. I don't think any of the schools have gone that far, but she is suggesting digging them up and posing them after they have been buried.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    She is a sick puppy. I don't think any of the schools have gone that far, but she is suggesting digging them up and posing them after they have been buried.
    What?

    Where does it say anything like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    What?
    Posthumous is after burial! She suggested that. I have not come across any school promoting such a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    Posthumous is after burial!
    I thought posthumous was after death rather than after burial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    Posthumous is after burial! She suggested that. I have not come across any school promoting such a thing.
    That is just Stuff'd not checking it use of the english language. Would the actual term she is looking for be Post mortem perhaps?
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    I am heartily fed up with the bunny loving, tree hugging, namby pamby, trendy lefty, academic vegan element in society. If it is OK for our government to kill possums en masse with hideous poisons then I say it is OK for kids to bludgeon, bash, or generally bugger up the furry little fuckers. Which part of apex predator do these twats not understand we humans are? We kill, therefore we are. Imagine for a moment the world without a single human being as that is exactly what we would have if man had not ever killed.
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