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Thread: What's wrong with NZs health system?

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    What's wrong with NZs health system?

    Thought I would start a topic on this as I've injured myself at work and have been flown out for treatment

    Basically have over extended my thumb enough that it split the web.

    In Oz
    Flown back to barrow island and to Perth.

    Straight from airport into hand specialist.
    Straight from specialist to scan
    Another specialist evaluated scan and then another specialist appointment tomorrow

    Good news is nothing too major.

    If it was NZ, it would be 6 hrs at A&E
    3 weeks to see anyone with a clue and a scan etc

    I understand OZ is more insurance based like the US I spose, but would it not be a good thing for NZ to go that way?
    You're basically paying for your insurance in your income tax in OZ, we do the same via ACC levies in NZ, so why is it the level of care in Oz is 50x better than NZ? ( keep politics out of it as I don't believe you cab blame a government for the radical differences)
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    NZ has a health "system" !.-?

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    I've always found anything to do with hospitals good. Both for the cancer from when it was found a week later doing chemo to surboard had surgery the next day. Though they are kind of urgent things aren't they?

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    Yeah a little more serious than my example.
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    NZ's health system needs way more cute nurses, then i wouldn't care if the wait was 50x longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmsaum View Post
    NZ's health system needs way more cute nurses, then i wouldn't care if the wait was 50x longer.

    More easier to understand nurses would help too. Go the palmy hospital heaps of young student nurses there

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    I suffered an early onset heart attack(intermittent chest pain) at work-straight to A&E.home again after nothing showed in bloods,cardiac treadmill next day -oh shit oh dear-blocked coronary artery.
    two days later get CDHBletter "6mnthswaitng list etc" -two days later papers from st georges hospital for an angiogram five days after that.
    now have specialists appt on 12/5.st georges would have put stent in there and then if id been private.but im not.
    Ive worked in health for 42yrs and yes it does have its shortcomings but dont kid yourselves aussie is any better.Ive heard numerous horrible tales about it.
    one from a mate of mine (both of us veteran psychiatric nurses).he gets a call out one weekend to an acutely suicidal lady in a little town somewhere south of the fringes of sydney.
    17hoursand 13 hospitals later he managed to negotiate a bed for her.being aboriginal by birth didnt help either.here in CHCH shed have probably been in hillmorton hosptial with 1-2hrs max.

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    Spanners, Did you meet up with Forum member MattyP on Barrow Island???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300winmag View Post
    Spanners, Did you meet up with Forum member MattyP on Barrow Island???
    I would have if I had known!
    I only frequent the heli port there - thankfully
    Funny thing is my name is MattyP also!

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    Yeah I noticed the difference when I moved here from Perth, was quite surprised how it works here and was used to rapid awesome service.
    The good thing about the aussie system is even when you don't have private health cover you still get good service thanks to medicare.
    It's not perfect but I always found it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    I would have if I had known!
    I only frequent the heli port there - thankfully
    Funny thing is my name is MattyP also!
    Must be a distant cock relation then.

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    Just back from 10years in Oz and experienced hospital care in Cairns ( rural) to them, on numerous occasions. New Zealand has nothing to be embarrassed about. Damn good service here, be proud. Try a third world country before comparing.
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    Maybe aussies are just soft and take little ouchies very seriously? here we're just like "she'll be right, slap a band aid on and if it still hurts in a month come back for another look"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    Though they are kind of urgent things aren't they?
    Their system told them they were dealing with a future Prime Minister Toby. They were obliged to pull out all the stops.
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    Spanners, there is a place for the insurance based approach but there is a big element of our society that simply could not afford to have the cover. If I use my family as an example, I have had comprehensive (read expensive) insurance cover since 1987 and have never claimed on it as I enjoy good health and never go to the doc (in fact I don't even have a doc). My wife (who has the same level of cover) by contrast has had several complex operational procedures (last one just yesterday) and Southern Cross have stumped up so much on every occasion that they could not possibly ever profit from her premiums. Then there is my mum who is on a widowers pension who does not have insurance cover. Mum has had good care through the public health system for cataract operations on both eyes and a heart operation all within the last 24 months. Yes she was wait listed and yes she got bumped a few times but importantly she did get the care that she needed on our public health system. Interestingly her attitude when I and my brothers offered to fund her private care was to tell us all to "fuck off, I have paid my taxes" (her words not mine).
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    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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