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    You Garlic growing experts

    What am I doing wrong?

    Failing year after year, the bulb on the left has formed cloves but very small, normally they all end up like the one on the right, one whole bulb no cloves, fat stem etc

    Have tried different stock etc, the only obvious I can share is it's very dry where it is grown

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    Do you water?
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    When I can, but we cant spare too much

    Do you think it could be a bit too dry
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    Moonhunt, it may sound like an old wives' tale, but you really need to plant garlic and shallots on the Shortest Day (Winter Solstice)...poke a hole in the soil, then bury the mother clove in just far enough to leave the end of the clove skin protruding from the soil. Too rich a soil can make them force to not create cloves, and just normal watering is required. They need a long time to form the cloves hence the long time in the ground...when the cloves are formed and it is looking good, bend over the stems and leave the whole plant, cloves still in the soil, until the tops have dried completely...then lift, and put on netting or hang up to dry, or plait into bunches.

    Edited to add: I can never understand why garlic and shallots are so expensive when they are so easy to grow.
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    Vampies in the night before they get a chance to grow

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    Also, big cloves for big garlic,planting small ones gets small plants.(in my experience at least)

    Dig soil deep before planting,they like to put roots deep plenty of well decomposed compost dug in is good.
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    Yip, that is true in regard to size. Keep your biggest cloves for next season.

    The old boy had a good crop this season.

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    Beautiful!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EeeBees View Post

    Edited to add: I can never understand why garlic and shallots are so expensive when they are so easy to grow.
    It may be the time in the ground IE so long to mature when other vege is only a few months.
    Same for yams,i grew them for a few years but they take so long and take up a lot of the garden.
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    Thanks EeeBees , yes I have read and heard about the shortest day/ longest day, but then read somewhere it didn't matter and we could plant later, and that is what I have been doing
    This coming season I will go back to shortest day then, it could be that it is not getting the time in the ground
    I have also printed out a moon calendar that we are following- how ironic

    Anyone know a good source of seed garlic or strain to go with or not go with
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    Moonhunt, ask these guys for a catalogue Seeds | Providing Seed to Home Gardeners & Commercial Growers, Kings Seeds I have used their seeds for years and have never had any duds...excellent service...I have always been interested in the heritage varieties which for some reason do better, well for me at least. I havent seen their latest catalogue yet, but they used to stock seeds for the Italian onion Modena...it is beautiful!!

    The Elephant strain is a lovely garlic, but perhaps because the cloves are so big, they do not seem to last for months on end like the smaller cloved ones, in my experience at least.

    Moon calendar...excellent resource.
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    I was given some "Kiakoura red" a few years back and its all i have ever grown.
    They grow big here in nelson as long as you do the prep and keep the water up to them.
    A nice strong garlic,not sure how they would go in your climate?
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    Sorry, I see the Kings do not have garlic in their online catalogue but here is Koanaga Gardens link to ordering their garlic...apparently it is one found in the gumfields and brought over with the Dalmatians...I have grown this one and it is good...gave too many bulbs away so I lost it...Artichokes, Potatoes, Strawberries, Comfrey, Uluco, Yams, Yacon, Garlic, Kumara Archives | Koanga InstituteKoanga Institute


    I have Jersuleum Artichokes if anyone would like some bulbs later on.
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    I think mulching might help your garlic too . I dont have much luck either - now I just buy a big bag of it from Trade Me - not overly expensive and you get decent sized cloves.
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    Thanks , Koanga is not too far from us

    I will get the prep done early and give it bigger nudge this year
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