.375 CEB 350 & GSC 414 at 2050 yards

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11-08-2013, 07:04 PM
Kiwi Greg

.375 CEB 350 & GSC 414 at 2050 yards

Went out yesterday to shoot the Cutting Edge .375, 350grain at 3050 fps with the GS Customs 414 at 3130 fps.
The Cutting Edge were shot out of a 375 Terminator, this barrel has always been problematic, always badly fouled after 25-30 rounds.
I have tried everything I can think of but it still does it :pissed off:

With two bullets remaining from yesterdays shoot, I went the range to check it's zero this afternoon.
It was as it should be & put the two in the same hole less than 1/8 moa group, with plenty of copper clearly visible in the muzzle......

Here is the video at 2050 yards the rock is a different one to last time & slightly bigger, under 1/4 moa, 3-4".

The end result was .25 moa difference in elevation, 4.5 moa in windage, some small sub moa groups & a broken rock :)

I'm not entirely sure why there was such a big difference in windage ?

The elevation difference was about what I expected, in my rifles at that distance the 350 does appear to have a higher BC than the 414, especially when you take into account the speed difference.

.375 CEB 350 VS GSC 414 at 2050 yards - YouTube
11-08-2013, 07:17 PM
Toby

Go further now
11-08-2013, 07:45 PM
el borracho

good vid Greg . Did the Gsc bullets BC hold true to your inputs ?
11-08-2013, 07:55 PM
Kiwi Greg

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Originally Posted by Toby

Go further now

Tryed further, 3050 ish yards Toby, but bullets weren't up to it, couldn't see any strikes, even on the big screen.

Have shot there before with the CE 425 & got some strikes so will have another go some time.

I need another range finder my one only goes to 3000 yards ......
11-08-2013, 08:02 PM
Toby

Thats good going. 3000 is a pretty long way. Would these rifles out perform a .50bmg?
11-08-2013, 08:02 PM
Kiwi Greg

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho

good vid Greg . Did the Gsc bullets BC hold true to your inputs ?

Thanks.

Yes they did sort of, except both the bullets were a little lower than normal yesterday, so required a little more elevation due to ??? probably conditions.

I didn't need any windage when I shot there a couple of weeks ago, as seen here ....

http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...50-yards-8820/

The BC I use for the 414 is 0.83-0.84 & the 350 is 0.88-0.89 for this range
11-08-2013, 08:10 PM
Kiwi Greg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby

Thats good going. 3000 is a pretty long way. Would these rifles out perform a .50bmg?

Depends what your deffinition of out perform....

They are certainly inherently more accurate & easier to shoot further.

But can't carry a payload & only fire little projectiles in comparison.
11-08-2013, 08:16 PM
Toby

Righto. Your 375s need those 50primers or normal large rifle primers?
11-08-2013, 08:20 PM
Kiwi Greg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby

Righto. Your 375s need those 50primers or normal large rifle primers?

Nope the 375s use standard Mag primers.

I will use the 50 primers in my 416 Barrett & 50 :)
11-08-2013, 08:44 PM
Toby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Nope the 375s use standard Mag primers.

I will use the 50 primers in my 416 Barrett & 50 :)

I got hold of her she never gave a price.
11-08-2013, 08:45 PM
BRADS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby

Thats good going. 3000 is a pretty long way. Would these rifles out perform a .50bmg?

Trouble with the BMG is the drop Toby.
My BMG with a short barrel was 70 odd moa to 1000yards the 375 is 60moa to 2000yards:)
And the 375 is waaaaaay more accurate.
11-08-2013, 09:31 PM
PerazziSC3

how is that brads? i just ran some quick numbers with a 750 amax going 2800 and its like 20moa to 1000?
Be cool to learn a bit more about the 50, must of been fun having one
11-08-2013, 09:49 PM
BRADS

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Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

how is that brads? i just ran some quick numbers with a 750 amax going 2800 and its like 20moa to 1000?
Be cool to learn a bit more about the 50, must of been fun having one

It was fun:) I said around 70moa I just ran it through shooter and came up a bit short.
It was the first lightweight 50 Scott made, it had a 16 inch barrel and was launching the 650fmj at 2300 so the ballistics weren't exactly amazing:)
Think he still has a pic on the website of a deer we knocked at around 730 with it:)
It was not known for amazing accuracy I think the short tube held it back at range.
Here it is again
Attachment 13281
11-08-2013, 09:54 PM
PerazziSC3

musst of had a good flame of powder coming out the barrel!! cool
11-08-2013, 09:59 PM
BRADS

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Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

musst of had a good flame of powder coming out the barrel!! cool

Lol after 15 shots your face would feel funny:)
Sorry to hijack ya thread Greg.
11-08-2013, 11:37 PM
mikee

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Originally Posted by BRADS

It was fun:) I said around 70moa I just ran it through shooter and came up a bit short.
It was the first lightweight 50 Scott made, it had a 16 inch barrel and was launching the 650fmj at 2300 so the ballistics weren't exactly amazing:)
Think he still has a pic on the website of a deer we knocked at around 730 with it:)
It was not known for amazing accuracy I think the short tube held it back at range.
Here it is again
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One of our club members has just brought a 24 inch barreled one of these in .50 as well. Identical to you pic.

I got to have try with it last weekend, well more than several tries. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you could not have chiseled the smile offa my face.
11-08-2013, 11:39 PM
Toby

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikee

One of our club members has just brought a 24 inch barreled one of these in .50 as well. Identical to you pic.

I got to have try with it last weekend, well more than several tries. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you could not have chiseled the smile offa my face.

When are you getting one :D
11-08-2013, 11:52 PM
mikee

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Originally Posted by Toby

When are you getting one :D

Well if I sell all my Ar's and my flash harry shottie and my 45 I might be able to buy 1/2 a one with open sights.

How ever if I were to win lotto i would buy one in every colour
12-08-2013, 07:06 AM
Norway

Nice to see Greg.
Please edit more, difficult to find time watching with two maniac toddlers in the house. ;)
12-08-2013, 08:01 AM
Kiwi Greg

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Originally Posted by Norway

Nice to see Greg.
Please edit more, difficult to find time watching with two maniac toddlers in the house. ;)

I would love to make them shorter Norway 15 hours to upload is getting a bit silly :ORLY:

I could do the good old editing everything except a few "money" shots etc, then it just turns into an advertisement or worse.

I try to put in everything that happened, all the shots good bad or indiffferent with out making it to boring.

We have all seen the videos of "first round shots" taken, then the camera pans back, to reveal a dozen or more spent shells etc, credibility starts to suffer.

I drive about 300 kms to make the videos so try to get as much in as possible.

I did attempt 3000+ as well but had no visible strikes, I hadn't intended to try that on the day & would have taken some 425CEs to do it because I have had strikes in the past with them.

The trouble with that distance & backdrop is it is very hard to discern a strike on the video or in the scope, they are visible when you put the SD card into a big TV.
12-08-2013, 08:15 AM
Terminator

I have to agree to much editing doesn't show the whole picture.
At this point in time I wont be running out and buying any GS 414gr the smaller CE 350s out perform them at ELR not a good look for GSs 414gr flag ship bullet Ps: under 1500yds this may be different?
12-08-2013, 09:19 AM
R93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

I would love to make them shorter Norway 15 hours to upload is getting a bit silly :ORLY:

I could do the good old editing everything except a few "money" shots etc, then it just turns into an advertisement or worse.

I try to put in everything that happened, all the shots good bad or indiffferent with out making it to boring.

We have all seen the videos of "first round shots" taken, then the camera pans back, to reveal a dozen or more spent shells etc, credibility starts to suffer.

I drive about 300 kms to make the videos so try to get as much in as possible.

I did attempt 3000+ as well but had no visible strikes, I hadn't intended to try that on the day & would have taken some 425CEs to do it because I have had strikes in the past with them.

The trouble with that distance & backdrop is it is very hard to discern a strike on the video or in the scope, they are visible when you put the SD card into a big TV.

Full credit to ya as well. I hate trick shooting videos that only show the hits.
Where do you get a computer that you can have to yourself for 15 hrs? Thats a bloody good trick in its self!
12-08-2013, 09:44 AM
el borracho

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

I would love to make them shorter Norway 15 hours to upload is getting a bit silly :ORLY:

I could do the good old editing everything except a few "money" shots etc, then it just turns into an advertisement or worse.

I try to put in everything that happened, all the shots good bad or indiffferent with out making it to boring.

We have all seen the videos of "first round shots" taken, then the camera pans back, to reveal a dozen or more spent shells etc, credibility starts to suffer.

I drive about 300 kms to make the videos so try to get as much in as possible.

I did attempt 3000+ as well but had no visible strikes, I hadn't intended to try that on the day & would have taken some 425CEs to do it because I have had strikes in the past with them.

The trouble with that distance & backdrop is it is very hard to discern a strike on the video or in the scope, they are visible when you put the SD card into a big TV.

that's effort Greg for sure ! I make a few videos with the dogs -sadly if the resolution is poor they upload quick if not shes a pain in the arse for sure .300 kms to shoot them ..alot but worth it for a spot of such distance and visability for when the round lands -good work
12-08-2013, 10:01 AM
Norway

You can always do both? Trailer plus full feature.