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    AR15 question

    Can I take my A-cat AR15 to a club day and run someone elses 30 round mag through it for the purpose of completing a course? And if no, can I run a course using someone elses E-cat rifle even though im only A-cat endorsed?
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    Not sure about first question but 2nd is a no. Unless it's changed, only the person who is can use the ecat legally is the person it is registered to.

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    No and No.
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    I'm deliberately leaving out the legal-speak and providing you with the bottom line to cut out the fluff.

    Simple answer is no you can't to both of your questions. A 30-round mag in an unendorsed AR15 rifle means you just "manufactured" an unlawful MSSA. And using someone's e-cat rifle, is also an offence irrespective if you have the right endorsement because the rifle is registered to them.

    Learn to use your 7-rounders and reload quickly. Depending on your course of fire, As might be more important than a bigger mag. Or just get your E then problem solved.
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    Unfortunately No and No which is just BS because you can got to a pistol club and shoots someones glock with a 30 round mag no problem.

    I'ts a lot of fun to try to keep up with 7 round mags and as has already been pointed out, depending on the course of fire may not be such a disadvantage.
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    Consider A-cat SKS, 7-rd fixed mag with bolt-hold-open feature, and reload with stripper clips. About Half the movement of a mag change.

    You can load 7 rounds in the stripper clip even if it's made for 10. Shortening the clip itself will make it work only from one end, so bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    Consider A-cat SKS, 7-rd fixed mag with bolt-hold-open feature, and reload with stripper clips. About Half the movement of mag changes.
    Stripper clips are good but try mounting a decent scope and using stripper clips...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    Stripper clips are good but try mounting a decent scope and using stripper clips...
    Yes, I cringe when I see big scopes on an SKS, like I also dislike my decision to top scope my SMLE 'H' barrel sporter. The stripper clips are just such a simple and convenient invention by Peter Paul Mauser. As it is, you don't need a big long scope at the ranges you'll use an SKS at. A small red dot, a short scope, a side mount scope, or a forward mounted scout scope are all options compatible with charger loading. I suspect many SKS owners have never used a stripper clip. But SKS mag changes are not as nifty as on the AR15. The mags on the SKS were not intended to be changed but were made as removable, fixed magazines, topped up from above.

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    I think this guy put on a decent scope, and preserved stripper loading by lengthening the shoulder stock. Could of course just wear a kapok stuffed Mao coat when shooting it.. (-:
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmatix View Post
    No and No.
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    Try it and see what happens.

    When you get arrested, just say you're a fit and proper person and should be able to own any guns and magazines that you like.

    Let us know how you get on. You don't have to use your one phone call from jail. (Use that to ring a lawyer.) Let us know later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    Try it and see what happens.

    When you get arrested, just say you're a fit and proper person and should be able to own any guns and magazines that you like.

    Let us know how you get on. You don't have to use your one phone call from jail. (Use that to ring a lawyer.) Let us know later.
    That's telling you how it is Ryan, no chance of being confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    Try it and see what happens.

    When you get arrested, just say you're a fit and proper person and should be able to own any guns and magazines that you like.

    Let us know how you get on. You don't have to use your one phone call from jail. (Use that to ring a lawyer.) Let us know later.
    I would rather ask than find out the hard way. I know I cant run a 30 round mag in my rifle but was thinking that maybe there was some exception whilst the rifle was at a sanctioned club being used. Obviously not. I dont know if the AR15 is really my thing but thought maybe doing a few club days might be a bit of fun and help me to make up my mind if its worth getting an E
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    I would rather ask than find out the hard way. I know I cant run a 30 round mag in my rifle but was thinking that maybe there was some exception whilst the rifle was at a sanctioned club being used. Obviously not. I dont know if the AR15 is really my thing but thought maybe doing a few club days might be a bit of fun and help me to make up my mind if its worth getting an E
    @Ryan_Songhurst getting your "E" is not really that difficult it just means that some how you are more 'fitter and proper'er" than all those 'a" catters, (don't ask me how that is as even after being vetted 3 x for a,b an e I still think I am the same person neither better or worse, I should ask Systolic to explain maybe ) , the main drawback is you would end up with 2 AR's one "e" version to do your club thing with and the other, "a" version that you can let others use under your supervision.

    Like the ad says.......................just do it.........................or not!!

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    E endorsement is easy to get if you are fit and proper. I would recommend it. Good opportunity to upgrade your overall secure storage. .223 factory ammo is piss cheap these days. Putting a lot of rounds through an E cat AR will help cement your shooting fundamentals. Good thing with an E endorsement also is you dont have to worry about minimum club attendance to keep it. You can come and go as you please or find the interest. Service rifle competition is a great shooting sport to get into with E cats. IPSC rifle is also great fun.

 

 

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