Thread: Better vetting of police needed?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yes I am asking what the vetting process is because I don't know for a fact what it is.

If truly anyone can snap under the pressures of life and murder others then I actually support a total disarmament of the entire country.

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What it won't tell you though is how important peer support and friends and family are for people under stress, and that stress and emotion simply goes with being human.

Our macho bullshit attitudes and culture, our denial and ignoring of our own and others' vulnerability, and the associated notion that people who crack are weak is actually counter intuitive to ensuring these sorts of things don't occur. No matter the persons' occupation.

Strange thread. If this had been about a hunter that accidentally shot someone then you would be calling for his head on a chopping block. Or if it was about some gang bangers shooting some innocents then the same would be called for. But it looks like a person who just happens to be a cop that set out to intentionally harm another person and succeeded and you're all calling for calm.

I will never understand you people.

Originally Posted by Towely

Strange thread. If this had been about a hunter that accidentally shot someone then you would be calling for his head on a chopping block. Or if it was about some gang bangers shooting some innocents then the same would be called for. But it looks like a person who just happens to be a cop that set out to intentionally harm another person and succeeded and you're all calling for calm.

I will never understand you people.

That's quite obvious.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Google this: psychological vetting of police in nz

What it won't tell you though is how important peer support and friends and family are for people under stress, and that stress and emotion simply goes with being human.

Our macho bullshit attitudes and culture, our denial and ignoring of our own and others' vulnerability, and the associated notion that people who crack are weak is actually counter intuitive to ensuring these sorts of things don't occur. No matter the persons' occupation.

Totally agree. The whole process through training college is also a long term interview.

Peer support and spotting the changes in people is where it's at but still hard to do and knowing to what extent to take it to is easier said than done.

Personally I think it would be better to invest in more EAP programmes, especially for those in fire and ambulance, problem is the individual still needs to get over the stigma and pride and take up these options.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Google this: psychological vetting of police in nz

What it won't tell you though is how important peer support and friends and family are for people under stress, and that stress and emotion simply goes with being human.

Our macho bullshit attitudes and culture, our denial and ignoring of our own and others' vulnerability, and the associated notion that people who crack are weak is actually counter intuitive to ensuring these sorts of things don't occur. No matter the persons' occupation.

Yes!
I'll speak for myself and myself only as an ex-cop, the largest surprise to me was the amount of internal bullshit and lack of genuine concern and care for each other within the ranks. Job related and outside. This baffled me.

The job itself is one thing but life is the hardest game of them all and we all need to stand together. Whatever the job.

Sad to see what's transpired down south, victims everywhere.
I cringe when I remember some of the shit I saw while I was doing the job. I was shot by a fucken work mate in the ass - accidental discharge at 2am into Tarmac and it flew up and nailed me. We did the job, had a briefing, I went to hospital, he had to do extensive firearms training and was not allowed to handle a firearm until he was signed off again 3weeks.
He's still in the job as a pen pushing wanker.
Should police be heavily vetted? Yes!

Are they now? No, not heavily enough...

Have they got it 100? No and they never will, do they do a great job?
Hell yes.


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Originally Posted by Tahr

Google this: psychological vetting of police in nz

Got the time to do this just now and got information on the polices vetting service and applications to be a Psychologist but no information on what vetting police themselves undergo or how often they are revetteted so if you could link me that information it would be appreciated.