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    Deer Stalkers on Sunday

    Hi all and Happy New Year.

    Is anyone heading up to the Deer Stalkers Auckland range that knows anything about sighting in a Parker-hale PH5B sight for a P14? I am heading up to give it a go but was keen not to use 100 rounds in the process Any tips would be great.

    Cheers,

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    What do you need to know? its a 1/2 MOA click, looking for one myself for my P14. It will be set to the MkVII ammo and for 300yds I'd expect it to be pretty close to the scale, 500 (+16~20clicks up from whatever 300 is) and 600yds (cant remember, and ive lost my range book, f***) you will probably be low. My load is 38gr 2208 with a barnaul 714gr fb fmj is light so I set 320yds and I think its 21clicks for 500yds from 300yds. Personally I find the blade a lot harder to shoot well with than a PH target front sight so picking one up is essential IMHO, sadly hard to find, ppl collect them and they are rarer than the ones for no4s.



    I may end up getting something made for the p14.

    You should get about 1 1/2MOA ~ 2 MOA and a P14 should be a lot less sensitive to load. If its widely out probably a new barrel is called for, but they are $450NZ for a criterion so not too bad. A P14 can handle hotter loads than a no4 so 41~42gr 2208 might be a good spot, work up 1gr from 38 and see how it does, brass life will half though, if you have to buy brass I like privy myself, the much lauded 1943 is over-priced second hand, varies a lot (2+ grains) and seems to fail sooner.

    I will be back Sunday evening, let us/me know how you go.
    PS I'd shoot 100 anyway

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    The elevation plates lowest marked range is 200 yards, so your best chance is to shoot from the 200m mound if they open that in the afternoon. That plate can be loosened by two small grub-screws so you can find the zero with your load and the target by moving the elevation screw and windage screw, then shift the elevation plate two 200 and tighten the grubs crews. You can't do that with the windage plate though, you'll have to use a front sight tool to zero windage with the windage plate centred.

    Im not going to that range, I'm going to the other DA range at 12 for the Christmas Shoot. So if you want to go over things, and borrow my front sight tool, pop in to my place on your way in to the forest. Pm me for details.

    The clevedon range shoudl be open next weekend for Carbineers match, you could zero at 2 or 300 there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishoot10s View Post

    The clevedon range shoudl be open next weekend for Carbineers match, you could zero at 2 or 300 there.
    Here's hoping! Was looking forward to practice today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Here's hoping! Was looking forward to practice today.
    I drove out there, and was wondering why i was the only one there...
    Had a chat with the farmer and came home to sulk...
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    ...at least i dont need to clean my rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunzter View Post
    I drove out there, and was wondering why i was the only one there...
    Had a chat with the farmer and came home to sulk...
    Grant
    ...at least i dont need to clean my rifle.
    Bugger. If you're in ASRA, make sure Stuart has your correct email address and you'll be kept up to date. He's pretty good at keeping the website up to date too.
    10MRT shooters do it 60 times, in two directions and at two speeds.

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    I just registered for the email notifications...
    Could you PM me Stuart's email address as i wrote to ASRA in early Decmeber but no reply... trying to join now... got form filled out and was hoping to kick it off today...
    Will now aim to start with the RNZAF shoot in Feb. (I was at the same shoot last year as a spectator...how time flies...)
    Thanks Grant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishoot10s View Post
    The elevation plates lowest marked range is 200 yards, so your best chance is to shoot from the 200m mound if they open that in the afternoon. That plate can be loosened by two small grub-screws so you can find the zero with your load and the target by moving the elevation screw and windage screw, then shift the elevation plate two 200 and tighten the grubs crews. You can't do that with the windage plate though, you'll have to use a front sight tool to zero windage with the windage plate centred.

    Im not going to that range, I'm going to the other DA range at 12 for the Christmas Shoot. So if you want to go over things, and borrow my front sight tool, pop in to my place on your way in to the forest. Pm me for details.

    The clevedon range shoudl be open next weekend for Carbineers match, you could zero at 2 or 300 there.
    Hi Ray,

    The Windage can be Zero'd also it appears. It has a grub screw which shifts the scale. I'm getting ride up with a friend who has a 4x4 so may not be able to pop in but thanks for the offer. Will see you at Carbineers if the hay is done :S.

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    Damn that was a long way to go. What a bugger!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    What do you need to know? its a 1/2 MOA click, looking for one myself for my P14. It will be set to the MkVII ammo and for 300yds I'd expect it to be pretty close to the scale, 500 (+16~20clicks up from whatever 300 is) and 600yds (cant remember, and ive lost my range book, f***) you will probably be low. My load is 38gr 2208 with a barnaul 714gr fb fmj is light so I set 320yds and I think its 21clicks for 500yds from 300yds. Personally I find the blade a lot harder to shoot well with than a PH target front sight so picking one up is essential IMHO, sadly hard to find, ppl collect them and they are rarer than the ones for no4s.



    I may end up getting something made for the p14.

    You should get about 1 1/2MOA ~ 2 MOA and a P14 should be a lot less sensitive to load. If its widely out probably a new barrel is called for, but they are $450NZ for a criterion so not too bad. A P14 can handle hotter loads than a no4 so 41~42gr 2208 might be a good spot, work up 1gr from 38 and see how it does, brass life will half though, if you have to buy brass I like privy myself, the much lauded 1943 is over-priced second hand, varies a lot (2+ grains) and seems to fail sooner.

    I will be back Sunday evening, let us/me know how you go.
    PS I'd shoot 100 anyway

    Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Will you let you know how I get on. Biggest issue previously is my ability to hold the gun in the same spot on the target. I built a Shooting rest today out of some 3x2 with adjsutable elevation. Hopefully that will help. (Waiting for the laughs after seeing my pics Cheers, RS

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    Good idea, nothing wrong with a home made unit when a shop one is $90+ IMHO.

    Problem with a rest is its different to your hand and sling, so for ammo testing yes sure, for getting close yes sure but you may find adjustment is needed when onto a sling. This is especially noticeable for a no4, no3 might be OK.

    What I do is sling up with glove and have a wooden block I made up the right height and I rest the back of my gloved hand lightly on the wooden block.

    The rear sight unit apature I find sucky so Im looking for a modern unit that comes with the PH thread or an adapter.

    Take a careful look for play in the unit in case that introduces problems, they do wear.
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    Managed to get it fairly close at 100m. Unfortunately they don't have the 200m open on these normal public days. :s. Sight seems to be nice and tight and was able to shoot reasonable shots continuously. Didn't end up measuring grouping or anything like that. Best part of the day was a guy that brought his .375 Elephant Gun in to fire one shot to make sure it still works. His earphones shot off his head and hit the back wall of the range haha. So awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs200nz View Post
    Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Will you let you know how I get on. Biggest issue previously is my ability to hold the gun in the same spot on the target. I built a Shooting rest today out of some 3x2 with adjsutable elevation. Hopefully that will help. (Waiting for the laughs after seeing my pics Cheers, RS
    Oh mate, i was at the range on sunday, saw your 'contraption' but didnt know it was you!!!! ().....how did you get on?
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    So it would seem as those aperture sights are like rocking horse shit, hmm. I found a P14 for a mate a few years and it has the same sight on board. Still is I think
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