The dinner plate challenge

Cold bore at 500yards haven't actually shot this rifle without the magnetospeed hanging off the end until today.
Will need to shoot a target at 100y to confirm absolute zero without the magnetospeed.
But still easily dead deer at 500y.

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Went on to shot a group.
Pretty happy with that for a 500yard group.

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Bread and butter plate at 100yards standing, the shot highest and furthest right is me 1 shot at 100y standing.
Jock also had a couple cracks at it too and they are the other 2 holes.

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Cheers for a fun session Jock always good to catch up :cool:
Learnt a valuable lesson not to leave my pastie unattended around the short legged visla :yaeh am not durnk:

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@dannyb dog is happy with himself
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Good shooting Danny, see you guys are actually better standing than you thought you were !

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He should be with half my pastie in his gullet :D lucky he's cute ;)

I will say those pink dots are about 2" diameter and they are plurry hard to line up on at 500y but had to improvise as we didn't have any plates :cool:
We also had a slight wind, sunstrike and shooting uphill to contend with, no excuses just putting it in perspective these were "field" shots not shot off a bench on a flat sheltered range.
Good times :thumbsup:

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I will say those pink dots are about 2" diameter and they are plurry hard to line up on at 500y but had to improvise as we didn't have any plates :cool:
We also had a slight wind, sunstrike and shooting uphill to contend with, no excuses just putting it in perspective these were "field" shots not shot off a bench on a flat sheltered range.
Good times :thumbsup:

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What’s the approximate diameter of your circles/ plate 12”?

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What’s the approximate diameter of your circles/ plate 12”?

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Jock traced one of his dinner plates as a template so he will have to confirm but I would say 12" if I was a betting man @PerazziSC3 will have to confirm

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Jock traced one of his dinner plates as a template so he will have to confirm but I would say 12" if I was a betting man @PerazziSC3 will have to confirm

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26cm

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26cm

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Just over 10" :thumbsup:

Good shooting you blokes.

The more you shoot the better you be.

Shooting hundreds of wallaby a year for the last few years has upped my game. One thing I have learned is that its worth while making sure you have the best rest possible and its only in the sudden spook and shoot situations that I will shoot off hand. My hit rate on running wallaby is pretty miserable but with a good rest I seldom ever miss out to a few hundred yards.

I've shot 40 deer this year for about 45 shots. Don't recall a miss but there has been the odd follow up shot when they have not gone down quick enough. 50 to 500 yards. Maybe 5 of them were standing shots, the balance with a rest. Sometimes just a tree or my pack on a scrub bush. Mostly off a bipod.

I put a lot of time into ensuring that my rifles shoot spot on. But I know this, when it comes to shooting a 12" plate at 200 yards Im very likely to embarrass myself. I will give it a go though and post the results.

my rough boresight was miserable fail with the .45/70......was about 12" low at about a hundy.....
I say about as the rock I used to check on knob down hill was small and I wasnt going down to check....got it back to near enough....and still managed to miss a wallaby at 50 yards....I did however get two with one round later on...at all of 25 yards,both got a finishing round but neither would have lived long.
did find out that 4x makes them look tiny at 5-600 yards LOL... will have to do the proper range thing and see whats what..... the three paper plates I carried all day were not harmed in the making of this journey.

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Good shooting you blokes.

The more you shoot the better you be.

Shooting hundreds of wallaby a year for the last few years has upped my game. One thing I have learned is that its worth while making sure you have the best rest possible and its only in the sudden spook and shoot situations that I will shoot off hand. My hit rate on running wallaby is pretty miserable but with a good rest I seldom ever miss out to a few hundred yards.

I've shot 40 deer this year for about 45 shots. Don't recall a miss but there has been the odd follow up shot when they have not gone down quick enough. 50 to 500 yards. Maybe 5 of them were standing shots, the balance with a rest. Sometimes just a tree or my pack on a scrub bush. Mostly off a bipod.

I put a lot of time into ensuring that my rifles shoot spot on. But I know this, when it comes to shooting a 12" plate at 200 yards Im very likely to embarrass myself. I will give it a go though and post the results.

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Don't bother shooting it at 200y shoot it at 500y or whatever your self imposed max hunting range is :thumbsup: outside of load developement I don't shoot paper at all infact I hate shooting targets for groups believe it or not.
My rifles are meat gathering tools :P

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Don't bother shooting it at 200y shoot it at 500y or whatever your self imposed max hunting range is :thumbsup: outside of load developement I don't shoot paper at all infact I hate shooting targets for groups believe it or not.
My rifles are meat gathering tools :P

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Yikes. 500 yards would be a double embarrassment for me. But ok, I will do it.

Only do 1 shot groups with hunting rifles, where the first shot goes on clean barrel means much to me, seldom shoot over 200 meters, most shots 20-40 meters.

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I would be horrified if that was my result at 200m, no offence to you but personally thats not good enough for what i want

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@Gibo, it 200 not 20 :thumbsup:

Oh, my bad

at 20mtrs with a smoothbore that would be very good.......

My efforts.

Unknown distance. If I remember I’ll try n RF it.
Two shots. Different positions both unsupported.

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Target is at bottom of white line.
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Second shot bullet ‘skipped’ onto plate.

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First shot clipped the edge.
Second is closer to the middle.
The corner where the dirt is was stuck into the ground.

It’s a bread n butter plate size. 7-8” maybe…


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My efforts.

Two shots. Different positions both unsupported.

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Target is at bottom of white line.
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Second shot bullet ‘skipped’ onto plate.

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First shot clipped the edge.
Second is closer to the middle.
The corner where the dirt is was stuck into the ground.

It’s a bread n butter plate size. 7-8” maybe…


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Shot this later…https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a31f94e84d.jpg
Unknown distance again. Closer than plate though.


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Good luck with the dinner plate shooting guys,interesting.
Id be pissed off if i cant shoot a 5 cent coin at a hundy,cold clean bore shot(kill shot),shooting off a rest.But 500 yds would be my limit on a red,400 on a fallow,but id want a good shooting position for that distance.Probly shot half my deer out to 100yds,me standing no rest.Ten deer+1 pig last summer plus 2 misses.The 2 misses were around the 300 350yds,hurryed shots,not confortable shooting positions lying on stoney river bed,bugger it.Every couple of months in summer i go to the range,using 147gr nato ammo.I practice hitting the dinner plate at 50,100yds just standing,can be hard to do sometimes.
If you can.just fire two rounds at your target say,200yds,go home,let the barrel cool down over night.Come back the next day fire 2 more.These are yr kill shots out hunting if you are on the dot.You hear a lot of guys shooting 20,30 rds in one visit to the range,your barrel gets too hot,you chasing yr scope around.Any how got lucky 2 summers ago,shot two deer on the run thru the necks at 160yds and 200yds.Shot both deer about a minuts apart,shooting thru a thermal clip on.
I cant do the dinner plate thing at the moment,my scope is off the rifle.Im waiting for a new scope,nothing flash,to come up from the deep south.

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Ruger 7 x 57. Cold shot 200 metres, prone, elbows no rest. Group A off bench, group B scope dialed up minute angle. Outside of 50 metres I'll always take the best rest I can find. Have never shot an animal 300 metres or over. Could have done several times but always managed to sneak closer. For me the most exhilarating part of it all. Cenral North Island. Mainly bush.

Is the plate for this challenge the 230mm or 180mm?

Hmmm - I used a 180mm plate and the rule, only one shot, cold bore . ...I would post up a photo but at 400 off a bipod there was no hole. Had it been a deer the splash told me Id have at least put a hole in it, and it might have moved a bit (top of lungs). Will try again next time.

@Magnetite, I thought somewhere, someone said 10". I went for 8" and used a 200 metre NZDA target. Had no dinner plates, well, none that I could use with out causing disharmony.

I used a 150mm plate but it’s about the kill zone and taking home dinner. 300mm should be in the kill zone in a large red but I would prefer 200 as a limit.
The challenge is about ethics and conscience with added challenge to see what we can hit in our normal hunting situation and the challenges that go with it.
I’ve had a few experiences where although I’ve had a clean kill I didn’t hit where I’ve aimed. I plan to have a few try’s with different shooting rests to see if my point of aim changes. This will take me some time as I only get one shot per trip to the range.

Had a crack today, cold shot 2 inches off the middle of the plate, free hand at 100 metres, awesome.
But I couldn't repeat it, couldn't even hit the bloody plate. Great reality check, always using shooting sticks these days, obviously for good reason. Too much time at bench rest and not enough on the hill.

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Had a crack today, cold shot 2 inches off the middle of the plate, free hand at 100 metres, awesome.
But I couldn't repeat it, couldn't even hit the bloody plate. Great reality check, always using shooting sticks these days, obviously for good reason. Too much time at bench rest and not enough on the hill.

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What calibre? There would be a huge difference between lets say a 7mm rem mag and a 223 standing free hand shot at 100m.

I take my hate off to anyone who can hit a dinner plate at 100m free hand in a standing position with a 300 win mag or 7mm rem mag.

Anyone out there doing this?

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What calibre? There would be a huge difference between lets say a 7mm rem mag and a 223 standing free hand shot at 100m.

I take my hate off to anyone who can hit a dinner plate at 100m free hand in a standing position with a 300 win mag or 7mm rem mag.

Anyone out there doing this?

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Did it yesterday with the 300wsm does that count :ORLY:

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Did it yesterday with the 300wsm does that count :ORLY:

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Yep :thumbsup:

I tend to disagree for a single round.........you are going to be up and bang.....no time to worry about recoil,and standing the recoil is going to be felt heaps less than prone as body can sway with it.

years ago I attended a triagle shoot at the nzda in Timaru...held in pleasant point...a novelty shoot was held later in day...howling wind from right to left and a chammy target at 50 yards,5 shots rapid..... there was bugger all in it between calibres..it was down to the nut behind the butt...sure showed the fellas who regularly shoot standing.

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I tend to disagree for a single round.........you are going to be up and bang.....no time to worry about recoil,and standing the recoil is going to be felt heaps less than prone as body can sway with it.

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Hmmm I'm pretty sure I couldn't hit shit with my 7mm rem mag standing free hand at 100m

interesting,its all a mind game...no different to the 223 ...you stand up,line up and pull trigger...... try it ,you may be surprised. 50 yards is much better range for freehand.

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I tend to disagree for a single round.........you are going to be up and bang.....no time to worry about recoil,and standing the recoil is going to be felt heaps less than prone as body can sway with it.

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At 6'8 and about 115kg I'm a pretty sizeable bloke but it really wasn't a big deal my 300 is suppressed if that matters ? I would do it again without hesitation, it's all in the technique. Wrap whatever arm you hold the fore with through the sling, then using the tension created by that to pull the but nice and firm into your shoulder and get a solid cheek weld (sounds complicated but it's easy as and having a rifle that fits you well certainly helps) you'll probably still wobble all over the place but it's much easier to steady the rifle with your front arm wrapped through the sling.
The recoil wasn't an issue at all, but I love my magnums and rarely shoot anything else.

most centrefires have less recoil than a .12ga with field loads...and a field load is less than modern steel loads....

Well dannyb,im so please you make me feel smallish at 6'4''at 140kgs.But i can still walk 4ks in 40 minuts.Il do a little speed test on the canel road every few months.Make sure i can still walk even tho i live in 2 storey house.Good climbing practice.lols
Keep up the magum shooting db.

The last time I was at a range and watched a bunch of guys shooting freehand at 100m targets, I would have to say not many can shoot a good group at that range.
Nathan Foster talks about this issue in his books and I totally agree.
You generally need to be shooting a lot of rounds regularly to be able to shoot well, which is definitely the case for myself.
Rabbits and wallaby shooting are fantastic for your shooting skills as there are plenty of targets about and you get to fire plenty of ammo.
You develop good trigger control and the discipline required to shoot well under a hunting situation.

Offhand shooting is a bit of a headgame too. I was at a PRS shoot recently, one stage featured a playe of about 400mm at a range of under 200M. Most guys were getting 2 hits from 5 rounds at most. Up tl the line stepped a very competent pest destruction guy - a well known shooter who regularly wins both 22 and CF matches. Bugger me - he didn't make any more hits than the mob. Then his mate (who also shoots a lot of PD) did the same.

Bad day in the office. I know for a fact both if them can shoot way better than I saw that day.

Was a 223 I used, with scope set at 6X any more magnifcation the target shakes around mad women taking a dump. Key to it is, get on target and pull the trigger the longer you piss around the more you shake.
Quiet offen when bench rest shooting, I move around aroud behind the scope to check out any paralax, close my eyes, the quick refocus then bang seems to work, remember watching a old boy watching his wife shoot 22 target --- that be a bad one & he was right so asked why, he replied your first vision on the sights/ target are your best, the longer you stain, old eyes especially the more off, you get. Interesting

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Well dannyb,im so please you make me feel smallish at 6'4''at 140kgs.But i can still walk 4ks in 40 minuts.Il do a little speed test on the canel road every few months.Make sure i can still walk even tho i live in 2 storey house.Good climbing practice.lols
Keep up the magum shooting db.

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Go you! If you and Danny haven't got covid you should stand by for an All Blacks call up. They are going down like flies.