Wanting to hear any suggestions for sourcing steel as how best to mount to set up some centerfire steel targets ? Looking to build my own KYL target as they don’t ship to nz, look like a lot of fun and a great challenge.
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Wanting to hear any suggestions for sourcing steel as how best to mount to set up some centerfire steel targets ? Looking to build my own KYL target as they don’t ship to nz, look like a lot of fun and a great challenge.
Search on this forum, there’s a heap of info.
message @Cowboy06 on here or email srdupontengineering@gmail.com hes rifle ranch targets - hes in south canterbury.
I build KYL targets in centerfire amd rimfire and can ship to wherever in Nz. Visit Rifle Ranch Targets on Facebook.
Go to your local scrap dealer or heavy machinary place and see if they have any old growsers or leading edges off of bulldozers that they've replaced, pretty sure they're the right grade of steel and cheap as chips. Cut to size and put some tabs or holes in it.
You need AR500 or AR550 steel or else youll get deep pits that are sharp on your hands and can ricochet bullets and lead back. Also after a while bullets shoot through them and they need welding to repair. Realshooting steel is virtually unmarked by a 308 bullet even at 50m.
Got mine made up a Realsteal in Upper Hutt
Thanks for the comments guys! Really appreciate it, will look into all the options you’ve listed.
If you let me know the sizes for the targets ie. diameter of target part. I can see how much some 6mm AR is and get my brother to cut out on water jet. Be cool to make one for myself as well
Steel Targets NZ in Palmerston North is a delight to deal with.
6mm would be a bit thin for anything big I would think.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNotty
I scored some blades from a sheet metal shop (off of a press brake I think)
not sure of the grade, am yet to shoot em up.
I hope they are good, 25mm thick and about three meters long....
My bad, didn’t read OP properly. Happy to get 10mm AR500. It’s not actually that expensive. $40 for a 300mm round AR500 gong through fletchers. Shouldn’t need a very big piece to cut all the targets from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage1
i know my 243 has punched through a gun city AR plate at 210mtr, only 1 out of 3 did, the others did leave a mark.
long skinny bullet with little frontal area.
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Thats cheap for a 12 inch cut plate if that's correct I would be interested in some.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNotty
Set a tyre in the ground and suspend a gong inside it (even better, two tyres and the gong suspended in the middle of rhe tunnel thus formed). You will have a neat aiming ring around the gong and you'll be able to recover much lead/copper bits from the inside of the tyre(s).
Attachment 167515 This was August last year. I get a pretty sharp discount. @Marty Henry These are 12mm, they don't do 10mm in AR500 anymore, well they didn't at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
I did a heap for the forum a while ago but it was a nightmare sorting out pick ups. I'll get another quote for ya, you'll need to blow a hole with gas torch as they charge heaps just to cut a hole.
Please do. Also some 300 by 400 squares.
If you weld a couple of bolts on the back at the top corners if square or at about 1030 and 0130 on a circle you can hang it off of bits of conveyor belt/layflat hose/load straps or whatever.
This way a bullet hitting whatever is hanging it wont make it fall down.
The plate will naturally hang slightly forward at the top angleing any ricochet downwards.
You cant shoot up your attachment points on the plate.
I have had no problems with anything 400grade and up, it isnt the weight or type of projectile that marks them it is velocity....high speed impacts melt the surface.....use at range and no problem.
Mild steel is ok for use at distance if being cheap/thats what you had laying around but it wont "ring" like hard steels and it will mark up or hole a lot.
NEVER shoot heavy mild steel at close range (less than 3-4 hundred yards) once it gets pock marked up a bullet can litterally turn around in a hole and come back at you. You wouldn't think so till 300grs go whining back just over your head. :o
Fletchers told me today they’re not doing 500 grade anymore. Only 450, but that’ll be sweet as at 12mm. I’ve done 10 mm grade 450 and it was sweet as. 300wsm at 60 m barely scratched them.
We were using 10-12 mm mild steel with conveyor belt for hanging and my 243 with soft point PMC were drilling a perfect hole at 100 mtrs .Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
The 338 with 250gr soft points were drilling perfect holes at 500 mtrs ....
Yep that is fairly typical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ftx325
Dont try 416 rigby on inch plate at 40-50 y FYI it doesn't end well.
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The 45/70 at 100 sounded like a church Bell ! DONG !!
Turns out steel has nearly gone up 100 % since August last year. Not that cheap anymore
Attachment 167554 @Marty Henry get in touch mate if you’re still interested.
GST exclusive by the way
Gun city ones aren’t AR500 they are more like 400 Chinese shit. They are a rip off.
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Theses not much on steel targets in google searches but hopefully someone here can help.
I want to retrofit my steel targets so they hang on a single steel Waratah. I also want them to hang at an angle.
These are exactly what I’m after but I’m struggling to find an NZ version/supplier. Hoping to purchase an off the shelf product before doing anymore DIY.
Any suggestions?
msge @Cowboy06 he will sort you out.
I know Real Steel in the Hutt Valley will do AR500 plate, they may do some fabrication as well?
https://www.realsteel.co.nz/
Thanks fellas will follow up with both. Not a complicated design at all and realsteel are local.
Cut a couple of gongs out of wear plate 500 grade offcuts the other week
but after looking at this thread and others.
I think my mickey mouse design maybe not a good idea.
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Planning to make some of that waratah bracket to tilt the gong on an angleQuote:
Originally Posted by SPEARONZ
maybe next month or 2 when I'm not so busy,
let me know if you still looking by then.
Like Bagheera said, get at least 10mm thick and no less than AR500 (hardness) - Ive got several and have smached them with 6mm Dashers running a 70gr pill at 3800fps and never managed to punch holes in any of my gongs.
You can go 8mm on gongs past 400m if you like.
Just dont let anyone talk you into buying AR400/420 or even 450.
Go to thrift store find cheap frypan. Spray white with warehouse spray paint. Hang from warratah until destroyed. Recycle scraps
Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snap 4T
I would recommend is you round out the corners on the mickey mouse ears - sharp corners = crack initiation given the repeated impacts the targets are subject to.
A bit personal preference but in my experience larger bolts work better as well - the flip side of that is smaller bolts are far cheaper to replace when they do fail.
