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    F-Class vid (coached shooting)

    Interesting vid from AccurateShooter showing F-Open coached shooting.

    Watch the flags and see if you can work out which flag the coach is using for wind strength and which one for direction.

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    Really want to get into this style if shooting.

    Any clubs/ranges in the Manawatu/Wanganui region? Based in the Rangitikei.

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    Cheltenham is probably closest to you, nice bunch of shooters too, always fun to go there.

    The range only goes out to 600yds, and is fairly sheltered, so you don't get to experience some of the wild winds of Seddon or Gisborne

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    Thanks.... Will get in touch with them
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    F-Class vid (coached shooting)

    Shit ebf that would have two be the most boring shit I've ever watched, sorry just my opinion, I realise there's a bit of skill there.
    How well do these guys shoot on there own with no spotter, or wind flags at 1000yards?
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    haha Brads, it's an acquired taste

    similar type scores for individual (at the top end). for open sights it is not uncommon to see the top guys doing sub 2 MOA (50.nn) with more than 5/10 of those shots being sub 1 MOA.

    The americans use a different scoring system (coz they are special ) their 10 ring in F is effectively 1 MOA, and the X is 0.5 MOA
    We use ICFRA scoring, so 6 ring is 1 MOA and V is 0.5 MOA. So an american 100.10 is about the same as our 60.10.

    coached shooting is actually quite relaxing for the shooter, because all you concentrate on is letting off a perfect shot each time. you can stay in position during the entire string. if you do your own wind calls, you often have to look behind you, shift around etc.

    in the uk you apparently shoot round robin, so single shots - shooter 1, shooter 2, shooter 3. this means that each shot is effectively a sighter and you really need to be on top of wind calls. it would be something to consider here, because rapid fire does tend to favour one competitor above another. at some of the ranges here, especially seddon you can go from calm to flip-flop wind that is enough to miss the entire target if you don't correct in 15 minutes.
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    F-Class vid (coached shooting)

    Thanks it's obvisiouly something your passionate about
    We are doing the same stuff with lr and elr steel shooting I guess just in a less controlled environment with hills and gullys thrown in to make the wind do strange stuff
    I should add that some would find that boring
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    yip, it's definitely slower. kinda like playing chess with the wind... you need to be at the top of your game for 5 times 10 shot string spread thru the day, for nationals it is a whole week where the top guys make very few mistakes.

    we do have plenty variation on the different ranges.

    brancepeth in wairarapa has a hill and gully on the right, and very different wind effect from 600 back.

    cheltenham has a shelter belt of trees on the left from 600 to 500.

    whatawhata in hamilton you shoot over a gully. at 1000yds the best wind indicator according to the locals is the leaves right at the top of a big mother of a tree

    seddon the wind is just MAD...

    what NRA style does miss out on is up and down angle shooting and shooting from uncomfortable/strange positions.
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    We do strange positions
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRADS View Post
    We do strange positions
    Please don’t say that two loud, R93 and Neckers will be over like a flash
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    ebf can you see the marker from the last shot through your scope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoped View Post
    ebf can you see the marker from the last shot through your scope?
    yup, no problems - the ones we use here are orange and about the size of a small apple. anything from 16 to 24 magnification is more than enough. i use 10x binocs when scoring.

    the open sights guys use a spotting scope (they aim on the big black blob), but most f competitors just use the rifle scope. it is sometimes useful to have a spotting scope to check mirage. some of the f guys are starting to use serious magnification kit like 50 or 80 power, so they obviously do not have a very large field of view, so using a second scope for mirage or want to look at a particular patch of grass on the backstop etc
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    I reckon I would enjoy F-class.
    Did a few years fullbore before I found sportingclays a bit more stimulating and social.
    Travelling to chch all the time to shoot might get a bit much.
    Would work out cheaper than sporting in the long run I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    yup, no problems - the ones we use here are orange and about the size of a small apple. anything from 16 to 24 magnification is more than enough. i use 10x binocs when scoring.

    the open sights guys use a spotting scope (they aim on the big black blob), but most f competitors just use the rifle scope. it is sometimes useful to have a spotting scope to check mirage. some of the f guys are starting to use serious magnification kit like 50 or 80 power, so they obviously do not have a very large field of view, so using a second scope for mirage or want to look at a particular patch of grass on the backstop etc
    So does anyone not use a spotter?, or is it a bit hard to read the wind with the other eye/ or thru the scope?

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    cool video. makes me want to get back out there, damb work gets in the way of everything.
    we are using the electronic targets now. I actually prefured the old way like in the video, easyier to measure using the reticle and the spotter. (no spotter on electronic)
    I don't find it boring at all. at least I wont until every shot is a centre, (which wont happen)
    its interesting, I was told at trentham the open sight shooters were from memory as good, but im pretty sure better! scores than f-class. (maybe that was one person, I cant remember now.) but not having a scope doesn't give much away.

    are you using flags shooting steel brads?

 

 

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