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    @Ultimitsu you have been challenged

    Here is a rifle for you, this thing could win. The Savage 30-06 which has been reduced to $400

    https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....-rifles-48632/
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    Can't make my mind up. Have the Savage 308 with Weaver 4x at $400 or the Zastava 7mmRM at $450 unscoped. Both threaded. I could knock up my own brake. I have a Pentax scope I was given. Have a couple of other scopes I paid. $50 for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    Can't make my mind up. Have the Savage 308 with Weaver 4x at $400 or the Zastava 7mmRM at $450 unscoped. Both threaded. I could knock up my own brake. I have a Pentax scope I was given. Have a couple of other scopes I paid. $50 for.
    Go 7mm Rem Mag with open sights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tussock View Post
    Go 7mm Rem Mag with open sights
    Doesn't have any, unless I make something. Eyes are suffering short arm syndrome nowadays too. Though making something would be fun. I just love to tinker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    Doesn't have any, unless I make something. Eyes are suffering short arm syndrome nowadays too. Though making something would be fun. I just love to tinker.
    I just found a set off a BSA about 10 minutes ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway View Post
    Ultimitsu, I bought this for $500. And many others like it that would shoot nearly as well, old BSA's and old Brno's.

    It will shoot anything I load for it into an inch. I cannot get it to shoot badly. I have fucking tried. I just put it into a different stock and it still shoots as well. I am at my wits end.

    The 40 year old scope I put on it puts it $100 over the entry minimum, but I bet I could beat you with it at 500 metres using its open sights. I throw down my challenge.
    Hi Carlsen,

    Well done, that is a good looking rifle for 500. Looking forward to see your score.

    Your challenge is flattering. But, no, I do not have 500 bucks to throw around for this challenge. In any event my view has been explained well enough -

    "If a person did not already start with an accurate rifle that only cost 500 from some distant past, there are only three ways to succeed this challenge:

    1. bargain ruthlessly and shamelessly, pay 500 dollars for a rifle with known accuracy that simply is worth more.

    2. draw of luck, keep buying 500 dollar rifles until you hit one that is actually quite accurate and sold by an unsuspecting owner - which can happen with estate sales.

    3. buy an average 500 dollar rifle and then spend a lot of time rework every part of the rifle: rework the trigger, true the action, lap the barrel, adjust head space (on top of re-crowning, bedding, load developments). Basically the sort of work usually only gunsmith can do properly. In my view unless luck is on your side even with all that work done you may not get a 1 MOA gun. "

    I do not have a 500 dollar gun that was bought long ago, I know of no one I can haggle ruthlessly and get a good gun for under 500. I never had the luck when buying something blind secondhand. I almost certainly do not have the time to tinker a gun to make it shoot better.

    But I am happy that your gun is doing well. I will watch this how challenge develops with interest. Happy shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimitsu View Post
    Hi Carlsen,

    Well done, that is a good looking rifle for 500. Looking forward to see your score.

    Your challenge is flattering. But, no, I do not have 500 bucks to throw around for this challenge. In any event my view has been explained well enough -

    "If a person did not already start with an accurate rifle that only cost 500 from some distant past, there are only three ways to succeed this challenge:

    1. bargain ruthlessly and shamelessly, pay 500 dollars for a rifle with known accuracy that simply is worth more.

    2. draw of luck, keep buying 500 dollar rifles until you hit one that is actually quite accurate and sold by an unsuspecting owner - which can happen with estate sales.

    3. buy an average 500 dollar rifle and then spend a lot of time rework every part of the rifle: rework the trigger, true the action, lap the barrel, adjust head space (on top of re-crowning, bedding, load developments). Basically the sort of work usually only gunsmith can do properly. In my view unless luck is on your side even with all that work done you may not get a 1 MOA gun. "

    I do not have a 500 dollar gun that was bought long ago, I know of no one I can haggle ruthlessly and get a good gun for under 500. I never had the luck when buying something blind secondhand. I almost certainly do not have the time to tinker a gun to make it shoot better.

    But I am happy that your gun is doing well. I will watch this how challenge develops with interest. Happy shooting.
    Another point of this exercise is to dispel the misconceptions you listed above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tussock View Post
    Another point of this exercise is to dispel the misconceptions you listed above.
    I am always happy to be proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimitsu View Post
    I am always happy to be proven wrong.
    You actually never had a point. You said $500 guns were so bad they could not win a $500 gun contest where the prize is respect, which makes zero sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimitsu View Post
    Hi Carlsen,

    Well done, that is a good looking rifle for 500. Looking forward to see your score.

    Your challenge is flattering. But, no, I do not have 500 bucks to throw around for this challenge. In any event my view has been explained well enough -

    "If a person did not already start with an accurate rifle that only cost 500 from some distant past, there are only three ways to succeed this challenge:

    1. bargain ruthlessly and shamelessly, pay 500 dollars for a rifle with known accuracy that simply is worth more.

    2. draw of luck, keep buying 500 dollar rifles until you hit one that is actually quite accurate and sold by an unsuspecting owner - which can happen with estate sales.

    3. buy an average 500 dollar rifle and then spend a lot of time rework every part of the rifle: rework the trigger, true the action, lap the barrel, adjust head space (on top of re-crowning, bedding, load developments). Basically the sort of work usually only gunsmith can do properly. In my view unless luck is on your side even with all that work done you may not get a 1 MOA gun. "

    I do not have a 500 dollar gun that was bought long ago, I know of no one I can haggle ruthlessly and get a good gun for under 500. I never had the luck when buying something blind secondhand. I almost certainly do not have the time to tinker a gun to make it shoot better.

    But I am happy that your gun is doing well. I will watch this how challenge develops with interest. Happy shooting.
    The whole point of the challenge is more to challenge yourself. I have no doubt from my past purchases that it can be done and intend to give it a nudge. I don't expect to win, but I expect to challenge myself to do what I can with some modest gear. It just sounds like fun.

    Reminds me of a Bathurst race back in the days of all comers. One team took a humble Corolla off the showroom floor on Thursday, made slight changes to car, put on suitable tyres and got third or fourth overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimitsu View Post
    Hi Carlsen,

    Well done, that is a good looking rifle for 500. Looking forward to see your score.

    Your challenge is flattering. But, no, I do not have 500 bucks to throw around for this challenge. In any event my view has been explained well enough -

    "If a person did not already start with an accurate rifle that only cost 500 from some distant past, there are only three ways to succeed this challenge:

    1. bargain ruthlessly and shamelessly, pay 500 dollars for a rifle with known accuracy that simply is worth more.

    2. draw of luck, keep buying 500 dollar rifles until you hit one that is actually quite accurate and sold by an unsuspecting owner - which can happen with estate sales.

    3. buy an average 500 dollar rifle and then spend a lot of time rework every part of the rifle: rework the trigger, true the action, lap the barrel, adjust head space (on top of re-crowning, bedding, load developments). Basically the sort of work usually only gunsmith can do properly. In my view unless luck is on your side even with all that work done you may not get a 1 MOA gun. "

    I do not have a 500 dollar gun that was bought long ago, I know of no one I can haggle ruthlessly and get a good gun for under 500. I never had the luck when buying something blind secondhand. I almost certainly do not have the time to tinker a gun to make it shoot better.

    But I am happy that your gun is doing well. I will watch this how challenge develops with interest. Happy shooting.
    Give the challenge a go with a $2000 rifle and post your score, then we can see if we can beat it with $500 rifle, it’s just a fun challenge!
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    The biggest challenge beyond hitting the 400,500m targets will be finding an area over 200m to shoot on

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    The prize is respect, well I already respect the target and wonder how it always managed to be in a different place to my shots last week. Tomorrows another day, new ammo, a diopter to put on my glasses, and a can of the most fluro paint I could find.
    Hope springs eternal. Is there any limot to the number of attempts you can have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post

    Reminds me of a Bathurst race back in the days of all comers. One team took a humble Corolla off the showroom floor on Thursday, made slight changes to car, put on suitable tyres and got third or fourth overall.
    that all changed when the aussies realised they couldnt compete with the turbo nissans and volvos....my uncle (neil lowe, privateer) got a third placing at bathurst in a bmw back in the day ....early eighties i think . on the podium he said " just shows kiwis can fly" ....... opened the door for a lot of kiwi drivers. he went on to work for both dick johnson and peter brock

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    Really like the idea of the Under 500 500 and tempted to give it a go myself however I need to familiarise myself with my rifle first at those distances, then again......

    Anyway, whether this would work for anyone in the big smoke for the challenge.

    https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...a2b01d843f1787

 

 

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