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    One piece cleaning rod, jags, brushes, patches, solvent, oil

    Jags come in 3 basic forms : slotted (waste of time imo), spear point and parker hale style. The parker hale style has barbs and allows to to wrap a patch tightly around it, the benefit is that you can pull back without dislodging the patch.

    Here's what I do, might seem excessive to some, but different ways to skin a cat...

    Put a bit of solvent on a patch and wipe down the bolt
    Clean off the solvent with a dry patch
    Lightly oil a patch and wipe down the bolt

    Put some solvent on a patch and use a chamber stick (dowel, chopstick etc) to rotate the patch in the chamber & throat area
    Soak a patch in solvent, and use a jag to push it thru the barrel. Some guys focus more on the initial section of the barrel, so 1/3 down then pull back, then 2/3 down then pull back, then all the way.
    Dip a bronze brush in solvent and push it down the barrel. I NEVER pull a bronze brush back thru the crown, if you are going to do it, then do it very slowly (see crown damage below)
    Use dry patches on a spear point jag until they come out clean. If after 3 or 4 patches they don’t come out clean, go pack to the soaked solvent patch.
    Lightly oil a patch and push that thru the barrel. Now it is ready for storage.

    Solvent wise, I use a hierarchy : Hoppes #9, if that does not get it clean, then I go to Butches Bore Shine (pretty much pure amonia), and if that still does not work, then I use JB Paste.

    Common problem with cleaning and how to fix them (it's not that hard screwing up a nice rifle by improper cleaning - go chat to a couple of gunsmiths):

    Crown : don't pull back metal brushes into the crown, or do it VERY slowly so that the brush is properly aligned
    Throat & barrel : use a bore guide, use a single piece rod, multi-piece metal rods are not good

    Or you could listen to your mate and have the gun rust (with enough abuse even "stainless" rifles will rust), loose value and at some point it will fail because of poor maintenance.

    Bore snake is handy for field cleaning, take along some solvent and oil in mini plastic bottles.

    Tape up the muzzle with electrical tape to prevent crap from getting into the barrel when you are in the bush. The gas in front of the projectile will blow it off, don't worry about the barrel exploding or bulging
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    One piece cleaning rod, jags, brushes, patches, solvent, oil

    Jags come in 3 basic forms : slotted (waste of time imo), spear point and parker hale style. The parker hale style has barbs and allows to to wrap a patch tightly around it, the benefit is that you can pull back without dislodging the patch.

    Here's what I do, might seem excessive to some, but different ways to skin a cat...

    Put a bit of solvent on a patch and wipe down the bolt
    Clean off the solvent with a dry patch
    Lightly oil a patch and wipe down the bolt

    Put some solvent on a patch and use a chamber stick (dowel, chopstick etc) to rotate the patch in the chamber & throat area
    Soak a patch in solvent, and use a jag to push it thru the barrel. Some guys focus more on the initial section of the barrel, so 1/3 down then pull back, then 2/3 down then pull back, then all the way.
    Dip a bronze brush in solvent and push it down the barrel. I NEVER pull a bronze brush back thru the crown, if you are going to do it, then do it very slowly (see crown damage below)
    Use dry patches on a spear point jag until they come out clean. If after 3 or 4 patches they don’t come out clean, go pack to the soaked solvent patch.
    Lightly oil a patch and push that thru the barrel. Now it is ready for storage.

    Solvent wise, I use a hierarchy : Hoppes #9, if that does not get it clean, then I go to Butches Bore Shine (pretty much pure amonia), and if that still does not work, then I use JB Paste.

    Common problem with cleaning and how to fix them (it's not that hard screwing up a nice rifle by improper cleaning - go chat to a couple of gunsmiths):

    Crown : don't pull back metal brushes into the crown, or do it VERY slowly so that the brush is properly aligned
    Throat & barrel : use a bore guide, use a single piece rod, multi-piece metal rods are not good

    Or you could listen to your mate and have the gun rust (with enough abuse even "stainless" rifles will rust), loose value and at some point it will fail because of poor maintenance.

    Bore snake is handy for field cleaning, take along some solvent and oil in mini plastic bottles.

    Tape up the muzzle with electrical tape to prevent crap from getting into the barrel when you are in the bush. The gas in front of the projectile will blow it off, don't worry about the barrel exploding or bulging
    That's bloody interesting mate. Ive always oiled and cleaned my shotgun religiously after every use even if it didnt need it. So though it was a bit strange what my mate said. So your legit about leaving the tape on the barrel even when firing? Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by possummatti View Post
    So your legit about leaving the tape on the barrel even when firing? Cheers
    Yup, single layer over the hole and once around to hold the edges down.

    Can't guarantee the results if you go ape and use a whole roll
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    Yup, single layer over the hole and once around to hold the edges down.

    Can't guarantee the results if you go ape and use a whole roll
    Haha 1 minute ill report back with the answer
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    EBF's basic instructions are good. (so is the tape - standard practice in NZ now)
    It's best to have both a 1piece rod for at home and a pullthrough or boresnake for in the bush. I personally don't consider a boresnake very hygienic as it can't really get the last pass very clean but might be OK if you wash it regularly.
    Remember to run a couple of dry patches through before you shoot next.
    Hoppes can dry to a gum if left more than a couple of months. I run a dry patch through afterwards then use a light waterproof oil on one patch then dry patch after that and dry out the chamber too. Then the gun is ready to shoot without further cleaning. The thin film of oil left after the dry patch protects the bore from rust and moisture. Very fine penetrating oils (WD40, CRC, Inox MX3) are said to creep or evaporate away over time so not recommended for storage. I use an hydraulic pump oil but new engine oil will do at a pinch and several gun oil manufacturers make special oils.
    For a start you can keep it simple like this.
    Removing copper is a further stage but not so essential in the short term. You need a special solvent like Boretech (or Sweets !!) so ask Mr Google when you want to look into that. No hurry.

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    [QUOTE=ebf;301909]Yup, single layer over the hole and once around to hold the edges down.

    Can't guarantee the results if you go ape and use a whole roll [/QUOTE Used a Jungle Carbine for years and a Condom and a rubber band was the best to keep snow and shit out of the barrel, works on any firearm if you can convince the missus

 

 

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