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Thread: More 22lr Ammo/Accuracy Testing - New Toy!! Pic Heavy

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    More 22lr Ammo/Accuracy Testing - New Toy!! Pic Heavy

    I've recently purchased a new toy so I though I'd share the ammo testing results for those who are interested.

    Just like last time a few disclaimers first...No I'm not a pro, no these weren't shot in perfect conditions and I don't have flags etc and no this is certainly not scientific testing, it's just me enjoying me toys out in the paddock!!

    All of these groups have been shot off a horse rug, bi-pod and rear bag. Also I've not cherry picked anything, all the targets I've shot will be posted regardless of how good/bad they are.

    So here's the new toy...Bergara B14r, Zerotech Trace 4.5-27, Leupold 20moa rail & Burris signature rings.
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    And the ammo that I've got to try...
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    Targets to follow shortly!

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    Forgot to mention that all of these groups have been shot with the suppressor on.

    Right, here the 10x shot groups, I think the last 2x pics should be targets of the ammo I repeated the test on to see if they were a fluke or not.
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    And just for reference, here's a target I shot yesterday (same day) using my 1416 after re-sighting it in as I stole the Zerotech off the 1416...It doesn't appear to be too grumpy!
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    looks like you had a nice afternoon testing

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    Nothing wrong with your shooting!! I'm gonna have to spring for some of the RWS Special Match despite the hit on the pocket!!
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    @northdude Yeah it's the best bit when you buy something new!! But it can be very frustrating though

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    @Tentman Sorry mate I haven't had time to get in touch today but I can give you some to try if you're up this way. Unfortunately there is none of that same batch left now otherwise I'd be getting more!! I think it's around $140 a brick so it's not as expensive as their top end stuff.
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    That 1416 of yours sure is good.
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    @ZQLewis Yeah I'm wrapped with it but to be fair it's only that good with that particular ammo and it might be just that particular batch number it likes so much.

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    Very nice shooting with the 1416 and RWS
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    Interesting. Any new rifle is always a work in progress and its a solid start for the Bergara B14. I do enjoy trying to accurise rimfires. The Annie is shooting beautifully and I would expect the Bergara will improve significantly with time and fine-tuning. Wind doesn't seem a factor as rounds are mostly well centred, there is no evident horizontal spread due to wind variation, and the Annie is 100%. I don't know this Bergara at all so my thoughts are general, but here are a few a basic comments - things I'd do first up to standardise the testing and tweak accuracy.

    First the obvious - go over the rings and mounts again to ensure 100% firm. Then I'd choose the 4 best ammos for closer testing - leave the others. Strip clean the barrel again, then relube it with 10-20 rounds of your first type of test ammo. Then drop the silencer - its a variable and may help the Bergara or it may not. Then check floating barrel is directly in centre of channel - can sometimes be left slightly off when tightening bedding screws. Then drop to 5 shot groups - helps take ammo fliers and your/my variation out of the picture. Then shoot five 5 shot groups with each ammo, but not more than 30ish rounds in a row as I have found some (predominantly thinner sporter barrels) 22 barrels can warm and begin to spread groups. For sustained accuracy some needed a short cooling break. Note - I am unsure on carbon barrels. Then after testing an ammo for 5 groups, put through 2 new mags of the next ammo to relube before proceeding to another set of 5 x 5 shot groups. This lube change before new testing can take 2 to 15 rounds - so shoot the changeover rounds until you're satisfied the new ammo is settled into its own stable pattern, and then do your five test groups. Depending on results from one or two types of ammo, be prepared to experiment with torque pressure on your bedding screws - this can affect 22s alot. But again I do not know this Bergara setup. With care those groups should come down towards 1 MOA, and drop under that at best.

    You'll find your best 1-2 ammos - then you can repeat process and drill into those further. Some of my sporters would shoot 0.25" at best at 50m and average close to that for consecutive group sets. The best 22LR sporter at 100m could dip under 0.5" at best, and average 0.6" for a group set. (EM332). There are some good wee 22s around - not necessarily name brands. That Annie is beauty - be interesting to see how the Bergara unfolds.

    All good fun.. good luck with the tuning..
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    Nice setup! I've ended up with pretty much the same but with the steel barrel B14r and have been loving it so far.
    Looks like you've had similar results with some of the same ammos I've been testing. I've tried a few hunting types plus some SK magazine, Fiocchi 280 and 300 and Eley match, sport and standard. Mostly been shooting at 100m with the best results from Eley match with the sport and SK close behind.
    I've also played around with the suppressor trying it off and also varying the number of baffles. Best so far seems to be 3 baffles on the DPT although I need to do more testing!
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    Interesting thread. I've recently started this journey as a new shooter with a t1x. My groups are okay but not as good. They're between 2 and 3 MOA. I need to work on my technique along with adjusting the other variables at play.

    My next step is adjusting the trigger pull down and refitting the scope with little spirit levels (hurry up, aliexpress). Also waiting for my sndway range finder to arrive so I can stop trying to pace out my distances.
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    with the 20MOA rail, Signature rings and high magnification scope i am guessing your going to go LR with this setup . . whats your plans at this stage ?
    without a picture . .. it never happened !

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    Nice work!

    I managed this the other day with my new Tbolt.
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    Nice targets!
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    Warm Barrels!

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    @rossi.45 Well it's the back of my mind to have it set up for long range but I can only comfortably shoot to 200m at my place but I had to get some sort of base and rings so it kind of made sense to set it up that way since it didn't really cost much extra!!

    I would like to get out to some sort of casual comp or range but I don't know of any local events...

 

 

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