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    The phrase "tilting at windmills" comes to mind reading this thread.
    If organisations require info like this for membership then you have a choice (its yours after all) to join.....or not.
    Common sense assumes the organisation knows they need to keep any info they hold safe and will do so.

    Nothings going to change in a hurry regarding arms act no matter who is in power if you think otherwise you may be dreaming.
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    Reading through this thread people with the political agenda to end all firearms ownership must rejoice about the amount of petty infighting within the "shooting community"

    Luckily, wherever I go, whichever shooting club I visit I always encounter lovely, helpful and engaged people, this includes the local NZDA branch.

    This leads me to believe 2 things:

    - The people in here that behave like inbreeds (and likely are) don't have many friends and don't get to go out too often, luckily for us.
    - Some might even be actors that deliberately try to gaslight/wind up people.

    In either case I can only say to anybody with a brain: Do not let yourself be wound up/gaslit by morons !!!

    Instead, go out, meet other people, visit your local shooting clubs, and if you find any that you like join them, and try to make things better!

    In any case stop squabbling over bullshit !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by STC View Post

    In either case I can only say to anybody with a brain: Do not let yourself be wound up/gaslit by morons !!!

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    Looks to me you’re a bit wound up mate, you should take some of your own advise. I just see a good lively discussion, nothing to get upset about. Lots of people have different views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STC View Post
    Reading through this thread people with the political agenda to end all firearms ownership must rejoice about the amount of petty infighting within the "shooting community"

    Luckily, wherever I go, whichever shooting club I visit I always encounter lovely, helpful and engaged people, this includes the local NZDA branch.

    This leads me to believe 2 things:

    - The people in here that behave like inbreeds (and likely are) don't have many friends and don't get to go out too often, luckily for us.
    - Some might even be actors that deliberately try to gaslight/wind up people.

    In either case I can only say to anybody with a brain: Do not let yourself be wound up/gaslit by morons !!!

    Instead, go out, meet other people, visit your local shooting clubs, and if you find any that you like join them, and try to make things better!

    In any case stop squabbling over bullshit !!!
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    maybe if everyone stuck together back in 2019 it wouldnt have come to this, but now that the law changes effects the hunters with a deer rifle and not a ar15 its to late to really do anything about it, its only going to get harder and harder like it has in the past 5 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hahn View Post
    I did some digging about our local as it's not illegal there. This was in a community news letter.

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    If that is the range I am thinking of then that one has been used as a bit of a test case between NZDA, DoC, and the Police Firearms Safety Authority around certification of ranges located on "public" land. The law requires ranges have an officer on duty while shooting and hence the request for a permit from the local DoC office and "bring your firearms license". The law requires the range operator to keep a list of suitably trained Officers of Duty including recording their firearms license number.
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    [QUOTE=Gillie;1465811]If that is the range I am thinking of then that one has been used as a bit of a test case between NZDA, DoC, and the Police Firearms Safety Authority around certification of ranges located on "public" land. The law requires ranges have an officer on duty while shooting and hence the request for a permit from the local DoC office and "bring your firearms license". The law requires the range operator to keep a list of suitably trained Officers of Duty including recording their firearms license number.[/QUO

    so tell me my old mate whats the story now - lets say two of us go out to mates farm put up a target and zero our rifles - illegal now or not - no one else involved - have permission from landowner - I am asking simply because a mate has asked me to help zero his two rifles and is rural

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    I was wondering about this, perhaps it might escape tge deginition of a range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STC View Post
    Reading through this thread people with the political agenda to end all firearms ownership must rejoice about the amount of petty infighting within the "shooting community"

    Luckily, wherever I go, whichever shooting club I visit I always encounter lovely, helpful and engaged people, this includes the local NZDA branch.

    This leads me to believe 2 things:

    - The people in here that behave like inbreeds (and likely are) don't have many friends and don't get to go out too often, luckily for us.
    - Some might even be actors that deliberately try to gaslight/wind up people.

    In either case I can only say to anybody with a brain: Do not let yourself be wound up/gaslit by morons !!!

    Instead, go out, meet other people, visit your local shooting clubs, and if you find any that you like join them, and try to make things better!

    In any case stop squabbling over bullshit !!!
    Now, now. Relax, Chippy will be back soon and all will be well.

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    [QUOTE=Barry the hunter;1465843]
    Quote Originally Posted by Gillie View Post
    If that is the range I am thinking of then that one has been used as a bit of a test case between NZDA, DoC, and the Police Firearms Safety Authority around certification of ranges located on "public" land. The law requires ranges have an officer on duty while shooting and hence the request for a permit from the local DoC office and "bring your firearms license". The law requires the range operator to keep a list of suitably trained Officers of Duty including recording their firearms license number.[/QUO

    so tell me my old mate whats the story now - lets say two of us go out to mates farm put up a target and zero our rifles - illegal now or not - no one else involved - have permission from landowner - I am asking simply because a mate has asked me to help zero his two rifles and is rural
    According to Firearms Officer I spoke with occasional use with temporary targets and shooting positions is ok. Once permanent structures are erected and regular events held it’s a different story. I guess that’s how we’re able to hold our pre-season duck shooters eye-opener. I have a cop aquaintance, recently transferred away, who used to come up and sight in or practice with his rifles up back of farm. He was pretty pedantic about rules/regulations, not a bad rooster though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry the hunter View Post
    so tell me my old mate whats the story now - lets say two of us go out to mates farm put up a target and zero our rifles - illegal now or not - no one else involved - have permission from landowner - I am asking simply because a mate has asked me to help zero his two rifles and is rural
    That is not a range requiring certification under the NZ Police Firearms Safety Authority interpretation of the Act and Regulations. FSA would refer you to the recommendations made in Section 8 of the FSA Shooting Range Manual (LINK).
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    Quote Originally Posted by woods223 View Post
    According to Firearms Officer I spoke with occasional use with temporary targets and shooting positions is ok. Once permanent structures are erected and regular events held it’s a different story. I guess that’s how we’re able to hold our pre-season duck shooters eye-opener.
    The first portion of that is reasonable - once you have pernament targets or shooting mounds then FSA will say range - get certification. Same with occasional use versus regular use though FSA have not given us an impression what constitutes "regular" in their interpretation.

    Assuming your pre-season duck shooters eye-opener shoot is an advertised event, is more than you and a few mates, and / or is run by a club then it'll require range certification through FSA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillie View Post
    That is not a range requiring certification under the NZ Police Firearms Safety Authority interpretation of the Act and Regulations. FSA would refer you to the recommendations made in Section 8 of the FSA Shooting Range Manual (LINK).

    yup found it thats pretty clear thanks mate - man that is a damn big document - good thing I learnt years ago what an index is 8.1

    Sighting-in that is done by an individual or a small
    group of individuals (but not a shooting club) on a
    one-off or occasional basis (e.g. before a hunting trip
    or duck-shooting season), does not have to be done
    on a range if it can be carried out safely, whether
    on private or public land with the permission of the
    landowner or respective controlling authority.
    on a range if it can be carried out safely, whether
    on private or public land with the permission of the
    landowner or respective controlling authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillie View Post
    If that is the range I am thinking of then that one has been used as a bit of a test case between NZDA, DoC, and the Police Firearms Safety Authority around certification of ranges located on "public" land. The law requires ranges have an officer on duty while shooting and hence the request for a permit from the local DoC office and "bring your firearms license". The law requires the range operator to keep a list of suitably trained Officers of Duty including recording their firearms license number.
    Sorry my previous post on this was unclear. @Gillie is the thinking on the St Anard "range" that it is not within the definition of a legal range? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillie View Post
    The first portion of that is reasonable - once you have pernament targets or shooting mounds then FSA will say range - get certification. Same with occasional use versus regular use though FSA have not given us an impression what constitutes "regular" in their interpretation.

    Assuming your pre-season duck shooters eye-opener shoot is an advertised event, is more than you and a few mates, and / or is run by a club then it'll require range certification through FSA.
    Greetings @Gillie,
    Even occasional use under the Range Manual needs to have a level of compliance with the need for backstops and danger zones. These are less formal than for an approved range but still need to be complied with. I have an area at the rear of our block that I use for check zeroing before comps and such. There is a bench, built years ago, but nothing else. I have run the template over it and am happy that any danger is confined on site.
    The real risk in Hawkes Bay is that we will wind up without any hunting type rifle ranges. There is a significant cost in setting one up from scratch let alone the difficulty in finding suitable land. We never realised how good we had it when the Roy's Hill Range was open.
    Regards Grandpamac.

 

 

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