Where in Kent? I only know of the ranges at Hythe or Lydd as South Kent is where I grew up
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She didn't look like her photo on Tinder! :huh::wtfsmilie:
12 years old. At a mates place shooting a 22. Both of us weren't to bad, shooting match heads at about 20m. His old man comes over (his nick name was/is Turkey), has a look and says you boys are doing alright there, have a go with this at that tree over there.
So I go, good as.
To his credit, he did say stand up and take the shot.
So I line up this 4in tree at 30m, and pull the trigger.
Hit the tree, but end up going backwards to sit on my arse. Turkey Catches the rifle as I'm going backwards.
My shoulder down to right nipple and right elbow, turned every color of the rainbow.
It hurt.
And to this day, 30 years later (and its only been about 10 shots), everytime I get forced into shooting a 30/06, I filnch, sweat, shake and generally shit myself.
FAAA I was impressed to see about 40 fired in one day. I was told they were about $1,500 each at the time.
I seem to remember M79 40mm grenade launcher having a bit of recoil. The Carl Gustaf 84mm gave you recoil from all sides for sure.
By far the worst recoiling gun I have fired was a very very short single barrel shotgun with no rubber but-pad. It was so light and firing game loads it was horrible.
Surely Turkey wouldn't do that to ya.
Hey @R93
My Grandad was ext WW1 vet. Fought in Yepres and Passchendaele (3rd battle of Yepres).
When WW2 came along he was now living in NZ tried to re-enlist. But they decided to have him train the troops going out. He did this for around three years I think.
With four years of WW1 under his belt he had more than a little experience. He said that grenades killed more throwers in WW1 than thrown at. He used to train the guys in how to correctly throw the 11 second Mills grenade. There was quite the art to doing this so that the enemy solider could not throw it back at you. (There is that scene in Saving Private Ryan where they are attacking the machine gun nest where you see this happening)
Anyway one day along comes some top brass who where there to see how the new batch of troops where coming along. They walked up to the tench where he was going through the live fire exercise.
He pulls the pin and droops the grenade on the ground. Well the Brass of course just run for cover. Grandad very calmly bens down picks up the grenade and throws it out of the training tench into the blast crater. The Brass are all like are you bloody mad???
He then explains why he trains them to do it this way.
Most panic when they pull the pin as they lose count and then throw it in the wrong direction, our it bounces off something. This way by dropping it on the ground in a controlled way you have time to retrieve it and get it to where it needs to be with out it coming back.
Officers are not amused.
Anyway I wont bother you with his unarmed combat drills......but they did save this falla from more than one kicking.:)
I know it was practiced before my time. But we never or would be allowed to do it.
Most modern grenades have a 4 sec fuse and I have seen some go off quicker and some take longer. That's why when posting they're chucked in hard. Bounce around a bit and hope no one catches it[emoji1787]
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Out hunting with an old journey man. My hand load 308 rounds weren’t chambering properly, luckily I got one in and smacked over a nice stag early in the trip. The next day I decided to leave it behind and the old boy to shoot the next ( if the opportunity arose ) we stumbled onto a mob of pigs 300m away. With his eye site he wasn’t keen to have a crack. He hands his 338 over to me and I think ahhh you have 250 grainers in this!. So naturally, having never shot the rifle, or at a pig 300m away, I flinched like a little bitch in anticipation as I was expecting this brute to kick like a mule. Naturally I missed but then after realising it hardly kicked any more than my 308 I backed the shot up and watched the pig roll on down the hill.
Firing an AK47 for the first time, feel lucky to still have my toes.
Firing an SRS in .338, amazing skull rattle.
A friend of mine used to ask me to sight in and group his pre-64 action model 70 Winchester 30-06. He insisted that I shot it better than him but I am 99% that he got flinch after firing more than 3 rounds.
Oh I forgot the old Mosin–Nagant carbine, I don't know if it was the worst recoiling rifle but the ergonomics are so bad that you feel every ft/lb of it.
My dad joined the South African Police at 16, when he was a bantamweight, to be generous. Shooting practice with LE 303s, lying prone at the top of a slight embankment... He relates how he had to crawl back to the top after each magazine, because the recoil knocked him backwards to the point that he lost sight of the target!
I'll also attest to big game rifles fired lying prone (a sort of initiation for nugget nature conservators in South Africa back in the day...) some things are best done lying down, others standing up... If you have time to lie down prone and aim, you probably don't need to be shooting a 458.
It was very unusual and was just before a deployment to Macedonia to support UN observers over the border in Kosovo. I think we had 200 rounds for the year for the platoon in normal circumstances, but 800 turned up and we fired them at Warcop Ranges in Cumbria from a single section of 3 mortars in one day.
The end of firing augmentation charge burning at the end of the day could probably be seen from space!
To link to this thread, the recoil from mortars pushes the base plates into the ground. When they get so deep it’s dangerous to drop rounds down the tube, at which point they have to be dug out. We did quite a bit of digging that day.
The TSSA held there big bore shoot last year. I cant member the form members names but shot one guys 458win mag. Wasnt as bad as i thought.
Then at the end of the day the owner of the 505 gibs was letting people have a go. Why not. I was concentrating so hard on not flinching and expecting vertical recoil that i relaxed my grip around the pistol grip. Jumped straight out of my hand and pushed my shoulder back a good foot with the bolt just toughing my face.
with a 650gr projectile at 1950fps and no muzzle break, no muzzle rise, the recoil energy is all linear straight backwards haha.
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But i didnt drop it. So thats nice i guess.
Could somebody please post this video:
Shooting gun test 577 tyrannosaur t rex gun.
(Shooters being flung about by a bastard cannon of a rifle)
Imagine the recoil from a 577 howdah pistol!
(Google on iPad, they were made in a variety of big calibers)
For a couple years we used to have to cost every munition and expendable store we used when planning exercises. It was a frigging mundane chore. It would then have to be approved by PL commander then the coy CO before going to the poges in the TRG wing for final approval.
I remember some mortar rounds @1500 and maybe M72s. Grenades we were using were definitely just over $600. Cheap ass Singaporean. However, I can can understand why they would have charged OCS extra as they would all require extra instructions and even brail on the grenade, that would certainly cost more money.[emoji1787]
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Brail wouldn't be enough.
When we first went to the grenade range I remember one guy dropped the grenade out the back of his hand as he went to throw it. Only the sharp action of the NCO instructor saved him.
They questioned the idiot afterwards, turned out he had been homeschooled and had never played any sport ever. One would think in this country that throwing a ball to be second nature. But nope.
Hes now a Major. Lol
I've seen that same thing on video. I never played sport at school if I could possibly help it, but I'm baffled as to why he'd drop it as you said.
Lack of hand eye co-ordination maybe.
Did you ex mil guys practice throwing dummy grenades during training, or was the first grenade you threw a live one?
I have been involved with a dropped grenade incident. Well not dropped, but poorly thrown.
Soldier using the grenade was hit with shrapnel, not serious but required a bit to be removed from flesh. I found 2 bits of shrapnel in my jacket over a month later when I was putting it on and scratched my self on it. Still have it in a jar somewhere.
He would have seriously wounded or killed another soldier who was forward of him and firing section gun had it not dropped into a wee depression 5 feet from him and on the other side of a 44gal drum.
He was wearing a patrol pack and the shoulder strap slipped and impeded his throw. He bravely tried to run forward and warn the other soldier until I and a safety DS jumped on him. Grenade went off and we were all peppered but thankfully not seriously. We were uphill from blast. He actually shielded me as I was pulling him to the ground from behind.
I thought the other soldier was definitely dead. However before the smoke cleared the gun started up again.
A lot of shit flowed downhill over that I can tell ya. Everyone ducking for cover as to who was responsible.
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Remember my old man back on the farm convincing mum to fire a shot with his jungle carbine 303. Short barrel thing - booted like a mule. She lay down, lined it up on the target and pulled the trigger. BOOM!!, the 303 leapt upwards out of her non-existent grasp, and likely gives her a slap. She gets up without a word, then walks back to the house.
She never touched another rifle, and oddly enough he never mentioned the subject again...
At college I attended a range day at Waiouru and had the chance to fire a M16, C9, SLR and the then new Styer....whilst waiting in line to have a go on the C9 I was offered a few shots with a guys 270 hunting rifle.
At the time the only scoped rifle i had fired was a 22...I was having trouble looking through the scope and the guy said to move my head back n fourth till it was clear.....you guessed it....put my eye up close to scope and BOOMFA....had a nice cut eyebrow and a steady flow of blood running down my face.
Hated 270's ever since:D
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yup 50bmg pistol
yep my tf intake was amongst 1st to be allowed to throw grenades after the earlier tragedy in waioru which cost two RF SNCOs their lives.
from memory R93 wasnt one or both awarded the George Cross for bravery posthumously.
we had to throw practise grenades 1st and we had a smartarse platoon commander (who after having me in an orderly room found out to his chagrin I was related to him on my mothers side).cocky wee bloke bet us he coupld put 5/5 throws into a car tyre at 20m .
fuck me a cricketer he missed the fucking lot .first three in our section dropped em in like turds down the porcelain.that cost hima dozen piss and 20 pressups in front of us.
anyhow west melton range the big day and Im bricking it.our Plt Sgt Mitch Mitchell was in the throwing bay with me-m....you again .....right shut up listen up dont fuck up.
we did a dummy run with the drilland me moment grenade leaves my hand hits deck,only to hear a sound like an enraged bull in my lughole"do not anticipate the word of fucking command "
we repeat I duck-oh fuck ..na hold on from under rim of battle bowler me sees eyes of one Sgt Mitchell whom it seems followed mein spite of his previous.
he never said a word-the real deal went off spot on -frankly that crack/hiss as it detonates still leaves me cold when i think about it and to see the fig11 target later only reinforces that feeling what a terrible weapon at close range.Its taken 43 years for me to reveal the secret of the SGT who'll stick in my memory also for including me as a reserve in his rugby team when they played sydenham at burnham ..as part of my CB punishment. a great instructor and mentor all the same!!
mortars /arty -FFS dont ever hire em to dig your garden. youll need an excavator to find ya spuds after those buggers turned ya soil over.most hills at tekapo trg area usually moved 100m sideways after a few arty /mortar displays loosened em up!1
actually heres a wee yarn on the subject .
Brit SAS being the mischevious buggers they are came up with a new anti personnel weapon -a minature 105mm howitzer concealed in a scotsmans sporran.Angus a braw scotty lad hard as glasgow granite,scared of no man(and very few wimmin) traipses out to the range to test said item
30mins later door of COs office swings open ,in staggers Angus
Well did it work
aye boss sure did too bloody well in fact
what
took out all the targets
but
fuck in recoil is still makin me eyes water!!
I think we had Singaporean made 40mm frags also. Firing into one of the streams in Zone 20 (I think that's what it was) and onto the opposing bank, we must have had 2 or 3 blinds from the case. One went off about 1 minuet after impact, giving everyone a hell of a fright (we had taken our muffs off). Anyway after the delayed grenade detonation we had stopped firing the grenades and started the C9s when unfortunately we set fire to the scrub with our tracer. Now you would think this was a big problem so we radioed the fire fighters who were not in the slightest bit interested (I mean who would want to cross into zone 20 anyway). To every ones horror a Sgt decided to go over into zone 20 and put the fire out himself. What a twat, he had hardly made it to the base of the opposite bank when another blind exploded. He was luckily below the explosion but he must have heard some of the fragments hissing overhead. A few more meters and he would have had a colander for a head.
recoil....mate used my pump .12ga and left me his unused rounds when he went back home to Sweden....in that collection was half a box of Remington hypersonic.....that shit is naaaasty.I was short stroking the pump and not killing anymore ducks than with normal loads....no way in hell will I ever use them again...they would be extremely brutal in a break open gun....
I used to end up with love bites from centrefires untill I learnt good shooting form/technique....I thank Nathan Foster for that bit...
a very short (read 5mm over legal) single barrel .12ga was wicked on the ears ,I fired it from him and opened web ofthumb up...did same thing with long barreled version years later...
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A few years ago @tommygun & I organised a range day with the Otago Students Spearfishing and Hunting Club to get a few first time shooters out to the range. Had ol' Chaz Forsythe (great guy, I'm sure a few of you have had your ear chewed off by him before) as range officer for the day. Great safe day out for the newbies, but of a group of roughly 20 I think 3 managed to scope themselves- one on my .270 (suppressed that thing barely kicked), one on Tommys .338LM (not completely unfathomable)... but one... one somehow managed to scope himself mildly... with an air rifle. That sound correct from memory @tommygun?