Hey guys. I am wondering if anyone here know a good gunsmith to rebarrel a CZ 452 (rimfire)???
I know Dean does but he's now flat out. Also Cleland does!?
CHeers
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Hey guys. I am wondering if anyone here know a good gunsmith to rebarrel a CZ 452 (rimfire)???
I know Dean does but he's now flat out. Also Cleland does!?
CHeers
Send it to Gunworks, back in 2 weeks
I thought it was near on impossible to wear out a .22lr barrel.
Or re-sleeve it with a barrel liner.
Cheers
Pete
You can probably buy a replacement cheaperQuote:
Originally Posted by xring
It is. It's usually rust, or bulging from firing them with an obstruction in the barrel that kills them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage1
If you're looking at buying a second-hand rimfire, look down the outside of the barrel with your eye close and with some frontal light. This makes any possible bulges stand out.
Try Scott Traill at SSRNZ. He did an amazing job on a Rem 700 re-barrel for me.
Well priced, and top quality job.
Hi guys, thanks for your suggestion. I will contact them.
What happens is I have a CZ 452 scout that I want it rebarreled with
a bull barrel for target or even some benchrest shooting.
To import one Stiller 2500x I will pay $3000+ just for the action.
Stiller just sends a minimum of 10 guns at a time, so its not another option.
Also, I have contacted a few exporter in the US and the cheapest for one gun
was $1600 including shipping, so I dont have any other way other than that to
have a custom 22LR. If I am not mistaken, oz rimfire shooters do that with
CZs. Keen to pay the price to see if there's any benefit. Who knows...
Thanks again.
Cheers
i would just buy a CZ Vamint . . . but thats probably just me, any excuse to buy another rifle
Why not send it to truflite to re-barrel with one of their rimfire barrels ?
thanks again guys!
I will probably buy the 452 scout, the cheapest in the class to get the job done. I thought about the 455 but if it wasn't too expensive and hard
to get one drop in barrel from Lilja, I would certainly buy one.
Trueflite didn't answer my emails and I have been contacted by Greystone Guns though. Have any of you heard about them?
I stay away from the inflated prices from GC. Prefer Reloaders.
Cheers
I suggest you read The art of rimfire accuracy if you have not done so yet for your project.
The problem of the cz452 is that it has only one screw to hold the action in the stock.
The less serious of the benchrest crowd use Anschutz model 54 actions even the 64 action has a better trigger than the CZ's I would look around for an old Anschutz match rifle they pop up on TM all the time for not to much money, or go retro and get a BSA International i match rifle they have one of the best triggers ever put in a .22RF
I'd look at a CZ 452/455 Varmint or a Weihrauch.
Probably be the same price to get a new barrel as it would be to get a whole CZ varmint.
What are you wanting to achieve?
Just a heavy barrel 22, or you striving for one hole group type accuracy?
Try ringing truflite , if they are anything like ME , I answer NO emails , ever , as thats not my job , my job is to run a plant .
Or Fax them .
so how much do you want to spend . .. for the rifle . .. for the scope .. . odds and ends .. . total cost ?
And what do you want to achieve?
tension sleeve the barrel ?
And unless Grant is sitting upstairs in the office you still may not get an answer. If they are down on the shop floor I wouldn't be happy if they were for ever answering phones in the middle of doing something for me. Best time to ring is first thing in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisF
Grant might be on holiday like most of us....
You are right , most people will be back to work tomorrow , monday the 11th
thanks guys, had an email from grant and he can screw one barrel in a cz.
my goal is one hole group, with a heavy barrel. a good looking rifle as well.
the 2500x run for $3000 delivered to your door. crazy expensive! no one in the usa
seems to export just the action. i tried all action makers and they only send one thru
an exporter, who charges you $1100 the cheapest. stiller ships in 10 minimum.
i am really thinking about making some rimfire actions here in nz, similiar to the 40x, what do
you guys think? i live off 3d and would not live off making actions.
hope to hear from you about it.
cheers
One hole group at what range?
A CZ 452/455 will get you that at 25m and most likely at 50m too with a little work.
I shot a 8mm 4 shot group at 40m with my 452 American tonight, which isn't uncommon from that rifle.
How does your CZ scout shoot?
beetroot,
i mean, i want the rifle to be as accurate as possible not considering me behind it.
i dont have the scout yet and the plan is to buy one for 600 bucks and just use the action.
or, like i said, make your own action.
great shot 8mm at 40. what ammo are you using?
cheers
Using CCI target ammo, shoots well with Lapua target too.
What 22lr are you shooting at the moment?
I'd recommend getting a CZ either American or Varmint and see how it shoots, you can free float the barrel and put a Yo dave trigger kit in it for about $50.
You might find you can get the accuracy you wanted from that, if not you've at least had some good practice and got to the stage where you can out shoot your rifle, then start looking at re-barreling it, or have saved enough to buy an off the shelf more accurate rifle.
Check out Rimfirecentral.com for thoughts super accurate 22lrs.
thanks mate. i had all sorts of rimfire rifles possible. i shot it since the age of 5 and i am 38 now and got some experience with that.
i had a 455 that i sold a year ago that i regret every day that. i want a proper benchrest 22LR rifle to be frank. there are some coopers on
an oz web site and they export to NZ for a little more than these 3000. anyway. i am not in a hurry and will do my research.
thanks for your help.
cheers
Again, read the art of rimfire accuracy.
Take a look at Kepler rifles from Switzerland .
There is one or two custom action actions maker around Finland I think.
And there is one in France : Christian Salva
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You can buy just the action from him. But you are looking at around €1500
That is if you want a pure benchrest gun.
Otherwise a good anschutz could do the job.
the more difficult, the better...
thanks friwi. i downloaded the pdf from amazon. will give it a read. in my opinion,
salva's actions must be first class, but lacks in appearance. horrible design.
cheers
Take a look at the silhouette rifle, that one has a magazine if that is what you are looking for.
I'd guess it would be owners using cleaning rods. I treat mine like an airgun barrel, never use a rod. Just a bit of mono fishing line pulling a wet patch through it occasionally. No brass coated ammo eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by 6x47
That went over my head- what did the rod cause?? A rod correctly used will never cause problems. Far more damage is done on average by poorly-used pullthroughs.
Rimfires are a totally different proposition to centrefires when it comes to cleaning. They run at far lower pressures and have a far softer projectile. The dry lube on the projectile has anti-corrosive properties and it takes some rough use or bad storage conditions to make them rust.
The biggest issue is traditionally lead fouling though the copper-wash projectiles may be slightly less prone to fouling. If you feel you -must- clean them, use a solvent aimed at removing lead fouling and firing a few rounds through afterwards may be needed to get them back to their previous zero. Many smallbore guys will shoot a good dozen or more after cleaning before getting back to paper.
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Why bother,this 10 shot groups where shoot prone at 100yds off a bipod with a standard 452 American in a 6mph swirling wind. For a non match rifle this plenty accurate!
Helas, they don't all shoot like that!
If you want to do a bit more serious target shooting, have a look at ex club rifles. Lots of Anschutz 1407 and Walthers around. Most of them the barrels are still in pretty good shape.
i bought a 1960's Walther KKM from a clubmate for $300, re-crowned it and put it into a stock that matches my FTR fullbore rifle. It shoots the wings of a fly :-)
Experiment and find what flavour of ammo your rifle likes.
A method that the guys in the USA do , mainly for the 10/22 trype rifles , which they clean the barrel with out taking the bolt , and just use a pull thru type jobbie thru the ejection port with bolt looked back .
Its cheap and alot of them use it & like it , you grab a piece of weedcutter cord , cut it to the lenght you want , on one end cut with sharp blade on 45 degree angle , this enable it to stab thru the 1 inche square patch easily , on the other end melt it into a bit of a blob , this acts as a stop for the patch , push thru the ejection port & pull thru the barrel .
NO need to buy a expensive pull thur , and most prefer this over the store brought jobbies .
Later Chris
