Probably 100 or more
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Probably 100 or more
Should be plenty to hold it up while we shoot.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
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I reckon the best bet is an already built old industrial facility that someone has access to. I'm thinking old railway maintenance she'd or even better, one of the old steam / utility tunnels that they seemed to be building everywhere in the 70s, that run everywhere under places like the CIT building in trentham. Failing that, there are some ideal facilities around the place left over from old timber mills- especially down south
It's called Dannevirke :ORLY:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
Just a little extension then :yaeh am not durnk:
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Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
Lost it again as it has filled with fruit bins :(
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Its good reading old shit though so keep it up
Just read it again as prepping brass for a guys 308 and settled on a great load with minimal neck tension.
Just read it again, 6 years later :)
Yep every now and again I pull it up.
I wonder what he would think now we have every thing from the IDOD, annealers, and the new Amp presses.
In saying that the Amp guys doing alot of work testing different scenarios with neck tension and seating pressure.
Plenty of scientific tools now!
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Any conclusive results on their testing ? @andyanimal31Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Just read it again :)
This URL will allow you to save and print the article
http://2poqx8tjzgi65olp24je4x4n-wpen...ion-1-1993.pdf
Anyone started digging a range yet?
Cheers for that. Nice to have a good copy of this on hand!Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
That’s incredible, but damn you have to be passionate to go through that case prep.
Got a row of old warehouses here at work that are easy 100 yards. Even though it’s an industrial area, you’d never get away with all the booming. Company wouldn’t be the biggest fans either I don’t think
Having shot a decent amount (300+ rounds) in an indoor tube range over a few sessions, what I would say is you have to have two of three known quantities in place to make testing worthwhile, i.e really sorted ammo, rifle and shooter.
If all three are unknown quanities you'll find it hard to learn anything if results are crappy. Have had excellent days whete all three lined up and shite ones where I think all three elements were crap.
So usually bring one rifle with ammo which I know shoots lights out (not literally :P ) and if you can't shoot that, just head home or practise with the .22Lr :pissed off:
Just read it again, we’ll worth it :)
Yep, tells a story worth reading about neck tension!Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
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@blip
hope there's a place like that when I die...
Bloody gold
I was lucky enough to meet 2 Ed's
Ed Shilen and Ed mcGivern
Ed Shilen knew more about rifles than any person I have met since
Ed mcGivern ( book - fast and fancifull handgun- might be pistol-shooting, or something close) shot the international ipsc comp in South Africa in the 80s and complained the targets wasn't dropping fast enough to get at the 2nd row behind . The organizers called bs, it was to world and exceeding standards ( he was in his l8 60 or early seventies . He went ahead and shot the 2nd row targets through the 1st as they were dropping to prove it
He also received a hall of fame commemorative prize in absentia, while being in the room. Old bloke fell asleep, no one was game enough to wake him up, to worried he'd pull and shoot em
Legend blokes from a bygone non Woke era
Updated download (pdf).
https://precisionrifleblog.com/wp-co...ion-1-1993.pdf
Just read it again :)
Well worth it
It is a very interesting read, I first read it in Precision Shooting years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
If you want to hear more about the Houston Warehouse then listen to someone who was there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kUywg2OFUk&t=71s
Will watch that video tomorrow
Thanks for that
The Houston warehouse story is an amazing study before the event of the very flash scientific equipment and a story of deduction.
It was amazing alot of the groups they shot were tiny.
Every thing from barrel length and concise weights of powder to neck tension.
They found that somethings we worry about now days don't affect accuracy like very precise powder weights are not what affect accuracy.
After reading the article several times over the years that's why I now own an amp annealler!
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They must have deep pockets
I read an article about the development of the PPC, the amount of analysis on that before it was used in competition was quite an eye opener.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldbloke
They must've had pretty deep pockets, Palmisano and Pindell were also offering to underwrite Ruger, or another US manufacturer to produce 22 & 6PPC rifles.