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Hi all,this maybe a silly question,
I have just had my barrel shortened and threaded for a can,the scope was removed for the process,
My question is,would I be better to resight it without the suppressor then once it's zeroed add the can and adjust for the change of point of impact or screw the can on from the get go,
Any advice appreciated,
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put it on,sight it in,go shoot stuff.....it will probably smoke a bit for first few shots (burning off oils in can) it will probably shoot about 3-4" below where it was before...eg using a bore sighter/collimetre my Xhairs are now on centre not 3 squares above as they were before suppressor.
once you are sighted in,take suppressor off and fire two rounds into target...you will learn two things
#1 where it shoots with out suppressor (probably about 3" higher)
#2 the thing is plurry loud and ears are ringing.....dont do that again.
If you're gonna use it with the can on, sight it in with the can on.
Thanks guys I'll do that,should be interesting how much quieter its going to be,
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I would just add that you should sight in with suppressor on, then remove it
, and replace it and shoot another for to make sure that it doesn't shift point of impact. If it does, you may need to add index marks to barrel and suppressor to help with consistency. This shouldn't really be an issue at normal hunting range but at longer ranges, could become more of an issue.
I did it the other way, got it sighted in without the can, then put the can on and make the final adjustments. Less wear and tear on the can, depending how many shots it takes you to get sighted in. My rifle shoots high and right with the can compared to without.
Also put some shots into target without can on after you have sighted in using can just so you know where bullet is hitting if you need to take a shot without can on for some reason.
How would taking it on and of possibly change point of impact,wouldn't the can come up tight against the barrel shoulder in the same position everytime,or am I missing something,,
Please excuse my silly questions I'm a suppressor virgin ha-ha
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they dont always seat in the same place.
Sighting in with the suppressor, fine if you have the load and it's within cooee, if starting from scratch with factory ammo I would shoot to sight in then put the suppressor on and finalize.
Load development with the suppressor, not for me.
How much difference could there be?Quote:
Originally Posted by blair993
If it is threaded right, there should be very little in it. It will only really manifest at longer range, where every small inconsistency is magnified exponentially as range increases. For hunting purposes, within 200m, you probably won't see anything different.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidGunn
never noticed a difference AT ALL with taking it off then going back on....think about it....IF there was going to be a difference well then you would have to sight in AGAIN EVERY time you put it back on.....yeah nah not a happening thing,its done up tight,same each time.
It shouldnt, most of the time you will have a different point of impact shooting with it on or shooting with it off, but every time you put it back on it should shoot the same place as every other time you’ve had it on. Wouldn’t be practical if it didn’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hbwanderer
and this man knows...he makes the plurry things.....plurry good suppressors too.
Multiple rifles with suppressors. Ar15 up until shit happened, Howa 1500, Winchester M70, Savage Axis. All shot to same POI near as dammit after refitting suppressor.Ranges out to 380 odd yds on animals, 500yds on std. clay targets. Even shot 200yd dearstalker competition ok with suppressor loose on Howa, got distracted my cock-up. Just sight in with suppressor on, recheck after removal/refit, if all good forget about it and go for it, other shit in life to stress about. I may be lucky, but over that number of rifles I doubt it.
I mainly bush usually so rearly shoot out to 200m.
I've been trolling the net very fascinating things these suppressors,(so many different designs)may even have a crack at making one,
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yeah nah....Darren at DPT and Amandas team at gunworks have got it down pretty darn good.... enjoy it.
be plurry careful if you do decide to try making it......its on the end of a rifle so a little bit wrong is a big bit of trouble.
Hmmm spend my evenings on the lathe or watching cooking/reality TV with the Mrs,,
It's a tough decision ha-ha
But seriously,got the range booked for the morning and what happens the heavens open up,hope it clears by the morning
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you have a lathe....next you will be chatting to Doug and turning out barrels LOL.
Doesnt everyone,Contemplated making a barrell also,,always wanted a Remington revolving rifle,,could be a possible project in the pipelineQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
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I'll probably get locked up for even looking at this, under the next round of thought police rules, but...https://hackaday.com/2017/03/08/diy-...-printed-help/Quote:
Originally Posted by Hbwanderer
There is with muzzle forward which is natural when you consider it, you have added a little more weight to the barrel end, changing the load on the bedding and hence the frequency of oscillation. Dpt suppressors which are all I have the shifts detectable at 200 on a thin barreled 223 of mine. 2 inches up which isn't really a lot but shows it does happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by berg243
I have on both Dpt and A-Tec.Quote:
Originally Posted by berg243
I have noticed nothing out to 800 meters,...... or have I,
now you have me thinking.
You bastard.:)
One thing i've noticed is the increased carbon build up in the throat area that definitely requires more cleaning to avoid potential over pressure situations if the build up decreases the neck to throat clearance.
Pay special attention to this extra cleaning requirement, its pretty serious.
You need to read an article in the latest ..”shooting illustrated “ magazine...October 2019..Page 34.....”Can-sequences”.......it explains this very subject in great detail...take a read,well worth it....hopefully someone can post it......
Don't forget to put half a drop of gun oil on the barrel thread now n then.Some people leave their suppresser on for months then wander why they are hard to get off.(cooked on)
Why would the carbon build up be that far back?Quote:
Originally Posted by Get me some
I was of the understanding that the suppressor should be removed for storage, I am sure I have seen that written on a pamphlet that accompanied a suppressor from the manufacturer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trout
also dont store your rifle with the suppressor on take it off when its cooled after shooting
I put some coppercoat anti seize on the thread and once I got back from the range rifle was cleaned and suppressor stripped down and all the carbon build up removed,then put on top of the safe,
I do have to mention it improved the accuracy from 1" grouping without and 1/2" with it on,,I just can't understand why I didn't go suppressed before now ,
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