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    Video for Long Range Hunters...

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    I like him. dry as a chip, doesn't get all hot and bothered either.

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    Theres been quite a few articles with regards to long range hunting over here recently. Not sure where they are getting this idea from. I know quite a few people have posted videos and I personally believe thats were a lot of this is coming from.

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    He is criticising people who shoot at long distance on elks(wapiti) while not using adequate performing cartridges and bullets for this animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friwi View Post
    He is criticising people who shoot at long distance on elks(wapiti) while not using adequate performing cartridges and bullets for this animals.
    What!!!! So is he dissagreeing with the idea that the 6.5 Creedmoor has magic killing abilities and can kill elk at 1000 yards all day long, surely not!
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    My comment was not specific to that video but of most of his videos talking about longer range hunting in general, smarty!
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    He’s pretty awesome I recon. I watched all his videos a while ago. Lots of great stuff on rifles, shooting, bullets and hand loading. Great these old guys are passing things on. I’ve got a few old gunsmith mates and hunters in nz locally I talk to on a monthly basis and they are the same, happy to pass on wisdom. I always pick up something new, no substitute for experience.
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    Bushy beard, drinks from jam jar = hipster right?

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    Google says this is a hipster @YosemiteSam...

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    Anyway back to the topic.

    Was talking to cuz in Colorado a few days ago and he's saying there's a fair bit of pushback on the long range community over there at the moment, at least amongst his local networks heading into deer season. Been a bit of an uptick in gossip amongst the PH community there, along the lines of a well known outfitter having had a battle with members of the client group taking videos of hit-but-fail-to-kill long range shot on game, unpleasant panic follow up shots, lost animal.... and the outfitter potentially risking loss of control of what happens to the video. A Youtube failure of long range 'celebrity' and running gutshot game animals wouldn't be good for business etc etc. Bad look all round. Some of these guys have sponsors...

    Funny how things come back to bite you. I was trying to set up my next week down on the hunting block today and I got some info that was a bit of a relief in one way, but a sobering reminder in another. I'll write it up on the relevant thread.

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    He knows the difference between cartridge and caliber which is more than most on this site.
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    Same dude- likes what he likes but has his experience to back it up. Partitions and Barnes get a bit of a tick. Others not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmiffy View Post
    I struggle with the contradictions in general and lack of understanding around impact velocity vs bullet construction. Shooting a 165gr match bullet from a 300 H&H at 300yds is just not smart and neither would shooting a barnes TTSX at 850 yds. He claims to have tremendous respect for the majestic game but was happy to shoot and elk in the arse to slow it down as it was the only shot available?
    Takes a shot at an elk at a600 yds by just guessing the range, Really?
    Practicing and determining the proficient range of shooters I agree with, many guys should take a good look at and I like his take on using a large enough cartridge but I think hes out of touch with long range tech with the balistic softwear etc. Id also wonder what chronograph he uses when hes finding these wandering ballistic coefficients.
    I wont bother watching any more of his stuff
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    I watched a few of his videos and gave up. He makes sweeping assumptions and then applies those assumptions in generic motherhood statements that totally ignore most hunting scenarios outside of shooting at bull elk with a 300 Weatherby Magnum.

    Very little of what he has got to say about hunting bullets stands up to scrutiny outside of heavy bodied elk and moose. The "minimum energy" video is a good example - rants on for 17 minutes about how crap certain bullets are, and only at the very end does he acknowledge that his logic does not apply to deer hunting.

    Sure he's got experience, but he has very narrow views that cause him to reach silly assumptions. In the "bullet technology" video, at the end he goes on another anti-EDL rant (sic)... at 900 yards in a typical 7mm Rem Mag load, the 162gr ELD-X is likely to be impacting below the Hornady stated expansion threshold of 1800fps. We don't know what cartridge was used, but the question of whether the example was outside the manufacturer's design limitations of the bullet is not even raised. Rant rant rant, rubbish bullet blah blah blah, oh but it broke the neck and killed the animal.

    You won't teach that old dog any new tricks, he's not interested in hearing about them.
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