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    22 Terminator

    After a couple of false starts with reamer issues I have finally got my 22-Terminator up & running

    It is a long throated 22-204 Ruger, which is a very simple neck up of the 204 brass & easy/economical dies.

    I have built a couple so far & they are both going extremely well with sub half moa groups at 100.

    They are a Tikka T3 ex 223 1-8 re-chambered, barrel & bolt fluted, with extended magazine to take the long pills.

    Initial results with Norma brass have the 53 Vmax at 3700fps, 75 Amax at 3200fps with the full length barrel.

    Approx 50fps less for the suppressed one which has a 2" shorter barrel.

    The 53 V-max is a fairly new release from Hornady & has a .290 BC, the 75 Amax has a .435 Bc according to Hornady.

    If you run those numbers into a ballistic calulator the 75 Amax has outstanding performance from such a little case

    In suitable conditions the 53 Vmax would suit bunny destruction out to 4-500 & the 75 Amax would double that distance

    There is no comparision between this & a .223, it is even faster than the 223AI without the fire forming & special dies.

    It is right up there with, or better than a 22-250 with a custom barrel.

    Here is the first one, with fluted bolt & barrel, alloy rail, it weighs 2.795 kgs









    This one has a 20" barrel & Gun works Maximus suppressor, alloy rail, fluted bolt & barrel & weighs 3.050 kgs









    Im looking forward to being able go & shoot some bunnies with my own one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg View Post

    Im looking forward to being able go & shoot some bunnies with my own one
    Am I coming? I recon the girls gun would go well at this
    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

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    You have the best stuff to play with.
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    Nice Greg, That can looks ugly as sin on that gun.
    Who wants to buy my 204

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    what do you think of the norma brass ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoped View Post
    what do you think of the norma brass ?
    Seems to be good in the 204

    Is a little soft in other calibres I have tried, but fantastic brass other than that.

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    What is the difference between the 2 in recoil and grouping. Soon you will be designing a better sewing needle. Classy.

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    Why wouldnt you just get a Tikka 22/250 and have less hassle?

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    Re: 22 Terminator

    Cause they only have a 1-14twist rate. This catridge would be nicer on the barrel aswell.

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    So what if it has a 1-14 I had a rem 700 in 22/250 and it shot the 70 grain speers just as accurately as it shot 55 grain loads - 1/2 moa. It all depends on the individual rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by von tempsky fan View Post
    So what if it has a 1-14 I had a rem 700 in 22/250 and it shot the 70 grain speers just as accurately as it shot 55 grain loads - 1/2 moa. It all depends on the individual rifle.
    Fine if you want to shoot bricks.

    I think that this a fantastic concept. I would be up for one if Greg had a take now, long time payment, interest free plan. Maybe Gold card discounts too

    Is brass easily available and not too expensive? Do you need to fire-form...I'm guessing not from what you have said?

    p.s. There is heaps on Google about the 22-204 Ruger. It seems that Greg's version is only differentiated by the long throat reamer and the straight forward fast twist option on the Tika. Which is all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeRei View Post
    What is the difference between the 2 in recoil and grouping. Soon you will be designing a better sewing needle. Classy.
    Recoil.....?????

    Both the rifles will shoot both the 53 & 75s mint sub 1/2 moa at 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by von tempsky fan View Post
    Why wouldnt you just get a Tikka 22/250 and have less hassle?
    If you only wanted to shoot to say 300 ish & didn't mind a shorter barrel life then go for it

    But the 22-250 has too slower twist to shoot pills with a decent bc any great distance

    That is the biggest draw back with the 22-250, stick a 1-8 barrel on it & it will most likely run basically the same speed with more powder, more noise & more barrel/throat wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Fine if you want to shoot bricks.

    I think that this a fantastic concept. I would be up for one if Greg had a take now, long time payment, interest free plan. Maybe Gold card discounts too

    Is brass easily available and not too expensive? Do you need to fire-form...I'm guessing not from what you have said?

    p.s. There is heaps on Google about the 22-204 Ruger. It seems that Greg's version is only differentiated by the long throat reamer and the straight forward fast twist option on the Tika. Which is all good.
    No fire forming, sraight neck up & you are good to go.

    Ps the Speer has a listed BC of .214 so it is indeed a brick, The 53 V-max is listed as .290 & the 75 Amax is .435, no comparision at all....

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    Shut up, get out & start pushing!

 

 

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