New generation T3 Muzzle brake.

Just got my revised T3 Terminator muzzle brakes today.

They are 25mm diameter, 69mm long & weigh 95-100 grams.

I have modified the design so they can be fitted to muzzles up to the same diameter as the brake.

I have kept the flats so they can be timed easily & will take a spanner.

Here it is on my CA10.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps295f7dbd.jpg

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps68e0b5ae.jpg

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4b842fa0.jpg

Standard threads are 5/8x24 for Remington, Savage, Weatherby etc 18x1, for Tikka, Sako, Blaser etc & 3/4x24 for DTA etc

I'm very happy with my new machinist, they are beautifully crafted from stainless steel & bead blasted :)

That's pretty damn sexy... :thumbsup:

Does the extra port make much of a difference?

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Originally Posted by Callum

Does the extra port make much of a difference?

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In previous tests I have conducted, removing a port does reduce the brakes effectiveness.

Obviously having a brake with 15 ports would be silly, it would work, but diminishing returns really start to kick it.

It is always a compromise between size & effectiveness.

This T3 is smaller than the original T3, closer to the T2.

The T2 worked just as well or slightly better than the T3 in certain calibres, which is why I decided to redesign it.

Years ago I used to shoot NRA Action pistol, with a .38super modified 1911 race pistol.

This pistol had a huge compensator (pistol talk for a muzzle brake) and one day an engineer at the club asked if he could have a look at it. He proceeded to wrap making tape around it, then asked me to fire it! To my surprise the last port still had making tape on it, then the next one back had only just broken the seal, the remaining ports closer to the barrel had all torn the tape well and truly off.

Long story short a hack saw cut and one minute in my lathe had the huge compensator reduced in size with no noticeable loss in recoil reduction, and a much easier pistol to handle as a result. Some sometimes less is more.

kj

Oh and forgot to say they look good.

Kj

:yaeh am not durnk:I did a brake comparison today :)

5 Muzzle brakes compared to the T3 Terminator - YouTube

lol at the whining kid in the background

Difference in brake designs and there effectiveness is shown rather well there:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by BRADS

Difference in brake designs and there effectiveness is shown rather well there:thumbsup:

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Yeah....Nah... they are all a much of a muchness Brads, Brake design has not really progressed from WW2........ :roll:

I just got back from the coaters a T3 that I fitted to a Savage 338 Lapua Magnum.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...psb279446b.jpg

Here it is on the muzzle with a 338 Lapua round.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps539d6441.jpg

It is smaller & lighter than the factory Savage one :)

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3f0a7e36.jpg

Looks 1000 times better

Here is a short video showing the T3 Terminator muzzle brake compared to the factory, HS Precison HTR, Rem 700P, Savage 111LRH, Sako TRG, 338 Lapua Magnum ones.

338 Lapua magnum muzzle brakes compared to the T3 Terminator - YouTube

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Originally Posted by Toby

Looks 1000 times better

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Is too:thumbsup:

Can't argue with results

love to see tests like that good work greg

the blast from the third break was huge, shows those larger ported breaks are real anti social more than the others.nice vid KG

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Originally Posted by Neckshot

the blast from the third break was huge, shows those larger ported breaks are real anti social more than the others.nice vid KG

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Radial Brakes are bloody anti social when your the one doing the shooting thow:thumbsup:
Think there was 5 Terminator brakes up the hill today, all shooting in a line no drama at all.

Here is another brake comparison I did yesterday with after market brakes this time.

After market muzzle brake comparison - YouTube

Whats the relationship between distance travled and force? I.e 100mm= 2 foot pounds etc. (If known) the t3 certainly stands out on that setup

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Originally Posted by distant stalker

Whats the relationship between distance travled and force? I.e 100mm= 2 foot pounds etc. (If known) the t3 certainly stands out on that setup

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No idea, all I know is that you can feel the difference on your shoulder way more than what any test can show you.

That there is more too it than just physical reduction.

Some of the brakes are just not nice to be behind as the shooter.

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Here is another brake comparison I did yesterday with after market brakes this time.

After market muzzle brake comparison - YouTube

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Its clear to me you are "overloaded" with work so Im suggesting that you send those rifles up to me to field evaluate on deer as a second not nessaceraly educated opinion:thumbsup: totally free of charge, you know were I live Il wait with anticipation.
Yours Sincerely Jase.

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Originally Posted by Neckshot

Its clear to me you are "overloaded" with work so Im suggesting that you send those rifles up to me to field evaluate on deer as a second not nessaceraly educated opinion:thumbsup: totally free of charge, you know were I live Il wait with anticipation.
Yours Sincerely Jase.

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ROFLMAO :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

ROFLMAO :thumbsup:

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Thumbs up is good:yuush:

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Originally Posted by distant stalker

Whats the relationship between distance travled and force? I.e 100mm= 2 foot pounds etc. (If known) the t3 certainly stands out on that setup

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Easy enough to work out on a pure distance but possibly maybe skewed by the speed over distance/ time aspect.
Who's got high speed camera gear? :)

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Originally Posted by Spanners

Easy enough to work out on a pure distance but possibly maybe skewed by the speed over distance/ time aspect.
Who's got high speed camera gear? :)

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Easier to just put electronic push/pull guage behind it wouldn't it? Peak force would show pretty easy.

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Originally Posted by Nibblet

Easier to just put electronic push/pull guage behind it wouldn't it? Peak force would show pretty easy.

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Peak force could well be all the same as bullet is accelerated down barrel and before the brake gets any gas to work with.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Peak force could well be all the same as bullet is accelerated down barrel and before the brake gets any gas to work with.

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I'm sure a better way of showing/measuring recoil is available, I have thought of a load cell ?

I did it this way because it was something I could easily/economically do & it appears to work well.

My initial testing with a heavy sled that was extremely repeatable, but the differences were small & hard to visualise on video.

I'm extremely reluctant to try to put a percentage value on brake performance as it changes dramatically with different ammo & calibres fired.

Would need to be something that could show force over time

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Would need to be something that could show force over time

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A wife?

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A wife?

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that's overkill!!:oh noes:

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Peak force could well be all the same as bullet is accelerated down barrel and before the brake gets any gas to work with.

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I would be quite curious to know as I would have thought that the air in front of the bullet being forced out would lend to effecting how much reward force is applied, not as much as the expelled gases but maybe measurable?

I do agree KG, it's a fantastic way of portraying the affects with instant gratification. Numbers on a chart don't mean jack when you can see it lke that.
Sexy product too.

how mch was the t3 brake if you dont mind me asking

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how much is the t3 brake if you dont mind me asking

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T3 is $295 inc gst, plus courier & fitting, cheers.

And it needs to be fitted by someone who knows what they are doing. I spent three hours indexing 30 calterrys which came from a gunsmith on the piss And yes he had the barrel. . Wicked now and good bit of gear. Not a member here that gunsmith!

Here is a picture of the T3 Terminator Muzzle brake next to a .308, 7mm Rem Mag & 338 Lapua Magnum

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9f73465e.jpg

As mentioned earlier it weighs 90-115 grams depending on which thread is used.

Standard threads are 1/2 x 28, 9/16 x 28, 5/8 x 24, 18 x 1 & 3/4 x 24.

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Originally Posted by Happy

And it needs to be fitted by someone who knows what they are doing. I spent three hours indexing 30 calterrys which came from a gunsmith on the piss And yes he had the barrel. . Wicked now and good bit of gear. Not a member here that gunsmith!

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I've had the same problem,had to sent it to another smith to get it indexed right,once sorted simply amazing,will get another one on my .260

Here are a couple of videos with the T3 Terminator on a 338 Lapua Magnum compared to a bare 308.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSeKJh4Z9Kc

A 300 Rum compared to a bare 243

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHgt7mY5zw