Hey guys what options have I got for a matte black finish on my rifles steel components. And who does it if its not DIY accessible. Needs to be durable. Cheers in advance.
Tim.
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Hey guys what options have I got for a matte black finish on my rifles steel components. And who does it if its not DIY accessible. Needs to be durable. Cheers in advance.
Tim.
Give Scott at ssrnz.co.nz an email and he will point you in the right direction.
Greystone guns in Leeston do cerakote(?)
Thanks lads will contact. Cerakote vs mil spec? Opinions
Etch parts with appropriate etch primer ( plastic/metal). For topcoat use black catalysed automotive basecoat. (Spies Hecker)
it will give a finish like the flat paint finish in the engine bay of your car.
Sounds interesting @Wild game havester ..
just looked at prices for cerakote @ greystone. 350 for a remmy or 450 for a tikka!!! they must be charging out an almighty hourly rate cause im sure there musnt be much in product when buying bulk. Id expect to pay around 200 for mil spec or the like am I way off? Might have to DIY..
I don't know how durable these guys coatings would be compared to Duracoat etc, but I have seen their work and it is impressive
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If your in the depth south. Talk to Andy at Coating Supplies Ltd, he should be able to sort you out. Lechler have some etches, a black 'wash etch' would be best, as you don't want build just rust protection and a bond coat.
This is a single pack etch; https://portal.lechler.eu/DesktopMod...EntryId=136089
or for a 2 pack etch use Lechler 29107,;https://portal.lechler.eu/DesktopMod...EntryId=136093
For top coat a Black automotive base coat catalysed with 2 pack fast hardener, should give you the finish, light even coats give a flatter finish (less is best, just get proper cover for protection).( check comparability with primer.) you could also use camouflage colours.tans greens browns.
Spies Hecker Spectroflex maybe another solution, would need to check durability and gloss level.ask Andy.
If you want to paint your stock, you can get a soft matt finish with this ; https://portal.lechler.eu/DesktopMod...=Core_Download
Spray out test panels to test and make sure of the finish you require. Let me know if he can't do small quantities or point you to someone using these. The main problem will be the quantities, hardeners come in 1 litre. But if someone is using these in the area you can sometime buy just the amount you require. There maybe a car painter who could do this for you.
Coating Supplies Ltd
82 Clyde St Invercargill 9810
03-214 1840
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you will have more luck with this email addy ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by deepsouthaussie
ssrnz@xtra.co.nz
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Ssrnz@xtra.co.nz is Scott trails email addy
The Scott you spoke to is a roofing expert in napier
Hahaha. Yeah got the wrong website. Coincidence there was a scott there too! Thanks @7mmsaum
Thanks for that mate very much appreciated. . I will have a think about that. one issue is not having all my own spray painting gear. Cost would increase significantly buying it all but will pop in and see what the materials will cost next time I go past Clyde street.Quote:
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Cheers
I did my .22 with rattle can Metal Protect I got from Placemakers, came out nice and it seems pretty tough, no scratches or flaking after 18 months or so. Will be doing my AR with some colorpak cans soon, but it's alloy so I'm not worried about rust prevention.
@Whisper was telling me about a product you can do at home but cant remember what it was called. hopefully he chimes in and tell us what it is
Parkerizing:
The Parkerizing process is different from the bluing process (which is essentially a pre-rusting/ oxidising of the steel surface) in that Parkerizing is actually a manganese- phosphate coating that chemically bonds to the surface of the steel. The colour obtained is grey to dark grey/black depending largely on the hardness of the steel. Generally the softer the steel the darker the finished colour. For this reason you often get a different colour shade between the barrel and receiver or other 'hardened parts'. Parkerizing bonds best onto a bead blasted surface, the finish is a matt non-glare coating, that is microscopically porous. This helps to hold rust preventing oils on the surface. Parkerizing has long been used as a military coating, and while not being as attractive to some as bluing, it is an excellent choice for hunting guns being far more durable than all of the types of bluing.
The process is usually complete within a few hours. At the end the parts are soaked in oil or dried. If dried they can quickly be painted, the Parkerizing acting as an excellent 'primer'.
Note: Bluing and Parkerizing can only be applied to the carbon or chrome-moly type steels used in firearms, and sometimes castings. They will usually not work on stainless steels, although there are some exceptions.
Can do it yourself - google for "homemade parkerizing recipe"
hmmmm.. Yeah did think about parkerizing better rust proofing qualitys but not to sure about durability seen a few rifles with it wearing off pretty badly from rubbing on ya pack ect.'
Powder coat
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It always looks soo good on old hand rails.
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Plastic Coatings in CHCH might be able to help you Sydnam I think. They should have flat black or textured black .Baked on at 180c so metal only parts.
Thanks @ChrisF will sus it out.
There are two types of Cerakote, one being air dry and the other requiring being baked in a outdoor gas oven (not one you cook in). The air dry maybe applied with either an airbrush or by hand with fine paint brush in a one coat action otherwise the finish is ordinary and is touch dry in about three hours great for small repairs ( graphite black works well ), with (midnight blue) if you are going to use the oven. The finish required prior to applying is best achieved with fine grit blasting keeping in mind that is is sharp and clean.Quote:
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ssrnz seem the most legit and best price so far. Going to send it up to Scoot at this stage after it comes back from bedding.
How did the coatings from Scott hold up ?Quote:
Originally Posted by deepsouthaussie
Didn't go there in the end mate. Sold the rifle on as really wanted a stainless barrel and action.