Anybody done a cheap diy night vision scope setup?
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Anybody done a cheap diy night vision scope setup?
Leupold lto with an adjustable mount.... Not designed to be mounted but sure it would go well on a 22.
Have an ati night scope lying round unused, bloody things to heavy for my liking, pm if interested
I made one from a Russian cascade tube which is pretty cool. I think @Beavis started a thread
That would be interesting to see if it would work I haven’t had the opportunity to use one,Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
I haven’t heard of the ati night scope but the atn x-sight looks fairly impressive
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I read somewhere about that style of night vision but I didn’t really understand it so I went down the light sensitive camera and ir torch path it works good but the crosshairs is slightly blurred so I’m wondering if it’s the cheap camera or the cheap glass I have it mounted on, looking for possibly a better cameraQuote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
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i repair atn x-sights. they work well but are heavy. if its a few years old you will need to upgrade the software (free download)
They can’t be as heavy as the contraption iv managed to put together, I wouldn’t mind getting an x-sight eventually
@ChippychowQuote:
Originally Posted by Chippychow
The advantage of a cascade tube base night vision camera is it can be sensitive enough to use without an IR torch target illuminator. The advantage of that is that if the deer are equipped with night vision sights they cannot see an infrared torch and take you out with a well-placed head shot. This is called passive night vision.
"Active" night vision, that is, with an IR illumination source is cheaper. You won't depend on ambient light, but deer equipped with night vision goggles can now see you from far away. But then again most deer have no money to spend on that sort of equipment. You don't even need a telescopic sight - just draw a dot, cross or circle onto the camera display screen where your bullets impact! You may need a magnifier type lens so you can comfortably view the screen close up.
And read up on the law.
i could be persuaded to sell my atn, pm me if interested.
Yup, I use a torch.
Can’t say iv ever had a deer return fire maybe there economy isn’t looking to good because Iv never seen one driving a hilux either,
Thanks for the info.
I’m not aware of any laws around night vision builds??? Not that I checked
Thanks for the offer I’ll have to pass for now iv got to many unfinished projects I can’t affordQuote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
@Chippychow Starlight Night Vision. DIY Night Vision Monocular
The price of the tubes has gone up quite a bit since I did it
They work very well though, I must complete the project one day
This is the active setup I put together siting on a Ruger America 17hmr shot a few possums with it haven’t really had a chance to test it as yet,Attachment 78636Attachment 78635
sold it
Pm incoming
I have a ir iluminated digiscope as new that I would pass on for a song foy a diy project. Works as is but would be interesting to have a play with it.
Something of a necrothread, but back to what to what chippychow was asking - it's entirely possible to make a DIY NV system using most digital cameras. Most digital cameras can see short wave IR as well as the visible light spectrum, but the good ones have an IR filter inside them, and the cheap ones just get a purple smear or tint in strong IR light. That purple is the camera "seeing" the IR light. Whether or not it ends up cheap is pretty dependent on how you do it. The better the components the better the end product, but more expensive :P
A fiddly but straight forward way to make a NV system is to open up a smart phone, remove the IR filter from the camera in the phone, then put it back together. Mount the phone in a VR headset (or on to a helmet, whatever works) with the camera lens peeking through the front of the VR headset, run the phone on video and no time-out on the screen, and get an IR light source to illuminate for the camera to see (this' an active system). You can get an auxiliary battery for the phone so it doesn't run through the battery as quickly. It'll also probably overheat relatively quickly, so a heat sink on the back of the phone helps. Mounting a small IR light source on the headset helps avoid having to point your rifle at things to see them clearly. The main light source can be mounted to the gun. The camera can see through a scope, but it will probably have trouble focusing, and correct head placement is difficult at best - alternate systems use the camera mounted to the scope, but they usually can't take much recoil. A pistol scope and scout setup might make this easier. That or limit your your shots to close/known range and use an IR laser on the gun and just point and shoot.
I built a setup like this to test the idea and it worked well. Biggest problem is disassembling and reassembling the camera without damaging any of the lenses or the focusing mechanism. A strong IR light source is really helpful as it helps make up for grainy image a bit. An IR laser or focused beam light is great on a firearm, but you really need a good power floodlight mounted around the camera to find your target first. A modern smart phone will give less delay in image than an older cheap phone, and the camera will probably be better. I built mine using a old cheap android so camera quality was poor to begin with, the screen was low-res, and the phone itself was never that fast, but it was good enough to move around in the dark and spot animals. It would probably be quite a nice setup with a more modern phone, and the cameras can be plugged in and out and are cheap on amazon, so you aren't making any permanent modifications unless you break something in assembly/disassembly. Your camera will see see shortwave IR in daytime though, so any photos taken with IR light present will be purple tinged.
Also you'll look like an idiot with what looks like an inside-out radio strapped to your head in the middle of the night :P
Or you can start with a CCTV camera remove the IR filter and use a reversing camera screen, some of the cameras also have privacy regions in the firmware/on board menus that can be used to make a cross so no additional scope is neededQuote:
Originally Posted by canross
Now that sounds better. Only downside to me is it's less compact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog
Possibly a bit less compact, mine is 115mm *55mm * 40mm excluding the screen and doesnt use a scope, that is including the mounts with a 50mm lens. The biggest problem with it is the amount of light given off by the screen which I haven't managed to sort out yetQuote:
Originally Posted by canross
I have been watching a few vids on the ATN x sight II lately - Is anyone using one?
How did you find your old one @gonetropo? Did they come in for repair often?
only time i had to repair them was they had been dropped/ leaky batteries and one with a stuck sim card.
they work well but are on the heavy side and very power hungry. 6-8 hours on a set of lithium batteries is the most you will get
